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    With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver
    Richard Truett
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    General Motors has tried three times to sell cars with the engine behind the driver.

    All are viewed as failures.

    Will the eighth-generation Chevrolet Corvette, scheduled to debut late Thursday in Tustin, Calif., break that streak?

    It's a steep engineering challenge to place the engine in the rear of a vehicle. First, there are few off-the-shelf parts from other vehicles that can be repurposed. So the engineering bill is big.

    GM's first production rear-engined car, the 1960-69 Chevrolet Corvair, had a flat-six air-cooled engine that shared no major parts with any other GM engine. The transmission was a two-speed automatic in a unique case. The manual transmission was also specifically made for the car. The suspension was also unique to the Corvair.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Considering their comparisons I think this is relative here. We've come a long way baby since then.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Corvair was a major success for GM. The "problems" were hyped to the aggrandizement of Ralph Nader and the detriment of Chevrolet and GM. It was the biggest and most successful launch of an all new car until Mustang 5 years later, a much more traditional offering.

    Corvair in many ways was the American Porsche 911, and the design influence was felt globally.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Quote Originally Posted by bmwboy2007 View Post
    Corvair was a major success for GM. The "problems" were hyped to the aggrandizement of Ralph Nader and the detriment of Chevrolet and GM. It was the biggest and most successful launch of an all new car until Mustang 5 years later, a much more traditional offering.

    Corvair in many ways was the American Porsche 911, and the design influence was felt globally.
    It was a success only to Corvair fans. It was a miserable failure to the rest of the world.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Quote Originally Posted by fastbal1 View Post
    It was a success only to Corvair fans. It was a miserable failure to the rest of the world.
    Riiiiiiiiight.. Manufacturers would kill for a "failure" that sells well over a half million units the first 2 years of production.


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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Quote Originally Posted by bmwboy2007 View Post
    Riiiiiiiiight.. Manufacturers would kill for a "failure" that sells well over a half million units the first 2 years of production.

    So did the Pinto.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Quote Originally Posted by bmwboy2007 View Post
    Riiiiiiiiight.. Manufacturers would kill for a "failure" that sells well over a half million units the first 2 years of production.

    1965 Impala alone sold over 1 million cars. That's Impala only. 1 year only. Throw in Bel Air and Biscayne, and 1 year sales were 1.65 million cars.
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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Quote Originally Posted by bmwboy2007 View Post
    Riiiiiiiiight.. Manufacturers would kill for a "failure" that sells well over a half million units the first 2 years of production.

    It was a failure because by 1965, the show was basically over.
    Success for half a product cycle is unacceptable at any time.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    1965 Impala alone sold over 1 million cars. That's Impala only. 1 year only. Throw in Bel Air and Biscayne, and 1 year sales were 1.65 million cars.
    So selling in numbers that are 25% of the most popular US model its most popular year of production is a failure?

    Is that your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    It was a failure because by 1965, the show was basically over.
    Success for half a product cycle is unacceptable at any time.
    It sold over 100K units in 1966, a more severe drop in 1967 with about 27K units. Every prior year sold around a quarter million units or better. That's 5 very solid years.

    It was also politically assassinated as a vehicle line.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    It was a failure because by 1965, the show was basically over.
    Success for half a product cycle is unacceptable at any time.
    Nice play on words "...unacceptable at any time"

    Similar to Ralph Nader's book title, "Unsafe at any speed"
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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    Why is a corvair even being discussed in the same sentence as the c8 corvette...?

    Sorry guys nut the entire discussion is weak..
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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    The constant negative coverage GM gets is mind boggling. So when writing about the longest line of sports car in the world, and also by far the most successful, you start by recounting GM's failures.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    I sure wish I lived on the west coast. I'm tired and have to get up by 6:00 a.m.

    I will be checking in about 9 hours from now.

    I expect the C8 to be a Grand Slam Home Run for Chevrolet.

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    Re: With 2020 Corvette, GM tries again to slot motor behind driver

    I'm like 2 hours away from Orange County, CA. I wish was there to see the debut.

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