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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    Quote Originally Posted by CJH View Post

    Can you get the Si version of the Civic in the hatch?
    I think it's sedan-only but, regardless, the local dealer has a $5000 "market adjustment" on theirs so they're not gonna lease it. Otherwise, I could live with ugly, especially because Honda has great manual trannys.

    Regarding the Buick, I simply can't wait too long; otherwise, I'd be open to the Regal wagon.

    The Chevy salesman told me the Cruze Diesel isn't available yet (he could be wrong, as they often are), but I suspect I may still face the issue of stick/sunroof.

    Couldn't convince my wife to check out the Audi A3 (no hatch other than e-Tron, which I think may be the old platform) and Bimmer 2-series, but they certainly would be on the higher end of lease prices of the bunch.

    Not a motivating factor, but the smaller the payment, the better chance I'll pick up a motorcycle. :-)

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    If I were buying a new car in the US now, without a moment's hesitation, it would be a Bolt. Probably in Premier trim.

    But I appreciate that does not suit your list.

    From your list, I would choose the VW GTi first, then the Focus ST, then probably the Cruze.

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    The GTi and ST will be $100+ more/month. I told the local Ford dealership I'd consider it closer to $300 but he can't do it with the sunroof.

    My wife loves the sunroof.....as do I. If I was a native Californian, I prob would forego it because there's sun all the time, but my Mid-Atlantic upbringing has conditioned me to revel in the sun at all moments. (How did I arrive at that theory? In the late 1960s, Ford sold the most Mustang ragtops in the Boston sales zone – even more than in the Los Angeles zone; that was pretty true of many Rust Belt zones, although LA was still up there.)

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    Quote Originally Posted by evanstim View Post
    If I were buying a new car in the US now, without a moment's hesitation, it would be a Bolt. Probably in Premier trim.

    But I appreciate that does not suit your list.

    From your list, I would choose the VW GTi first, then the Focus ST, then probably the Cruze.
    The Bolt is expensive, premier would be pricey, definitely not Cruze or golf price

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    Quote Originally Posted by tnmats View Post
    The AC in my wife's Nox cools down wonderfully, typical the kids will fuss "turn it down, it's cold back here". The Malibu's AC is cold too, works fantastically so far.

    I won't go into the idiotic design reasons for the 3's lousy AC, you can easily find the details on Mazda forums. Another problem is the putrid smell from the system when you first turn it on, something I never, ever had an issue with in my wife's 'Nox. And yes, it was another known issue, there's a TSB covering the problem. Neandrathal, your observation on the amount of water spewed from GM cars is likely the reason we never got the stink in the 'Nox, my Mazda never would drain like that even when new.

    Anyways, to the original poster, make sure the AC works on a blazing hot day with direct sunlight beating on the car before you buy any Mazda. I sure I wish I did. After living with the Mazderati for 12 years I'd likely never purchase another one. And make sure you can live the racket too, they do not sound insulate their cars that well.
    GM always had AC nailed down, as far back as I can recall. Right up to the point where the Compressor on my '81 'vette quit. I'd had that trusty beast back and forth to Lovely Downtown Fort Bragg a couple of times, hated to kiss it goodbye. But I did.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve333 View Post
    I have a 2013 Mazda 3-the A/C takes a while to cool the interior.
    There is no sound insulation still and I can sometimes barely hear my radio and this is with the windows closed.
    Horrible ride on grooved freeways and rough streets.
    Automatic shifts aren't good at all.
    Handles well for an inexpensive car and looks good but that's about it
    I didn't drive a GTI but I drove the Maz3. I will say from owner reports, my hunch is to stay away from the cars the car mag guys go orgasmic over, because there seem to be lots of nit-picky--and larger--issues with them that guys who work in Ann Arbor and all drive leased BMWs do not notice or go into detail about.

    Diego just needs to blindfold his wife and take her for a tear-around in a base Soul 1.6 6M for 20 minutes. Then 'splain that with a $1000 cash money aftermarket s'n'oof, the lease payments will be about 180 bucks a month. $162/mo with $2000 down, $220 with zero down. Taxes and dealer rip I mean expenses additional. Note, that price includes floor mats!!

    http://www.kia.com/us/en/build/soul/...7&options=6149
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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    Hard to believe this was 20 years ago!?

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Hard to believe this was 20 years ago!?

    LOL....I totally remember this ad!

    Made such scandalous headlines.....were they, weren't they....L O Freakin L....those were the days!!!! I miss the 90's!!

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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    People from 1997 look contemporary today. Try that with any 20-year span and usually people look goofy.

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    VW has always had excellent ad campaigns. Contrast that with real actors, not people etc. pathetic waste of money. Werd.
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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    Definitely headline news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    VW has always had excellent ad campaigns. Contrast that with real actors, not people etc. pathetic waste of money. Werd.
    VW MkV Golf GTI "Unpimp the Auto"

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    VW MkV Golf GTI "Unpimp the Auto"
    So, Diego, was it all these VW ads over the years that pushes you toward another 'dub, do you like to flash VW Gangsta signs, or something else?
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    Re: Small hatchback shopping

    I used to work as an advertising copywriter, so I am familiar with all these ads, not to mention I'm jaded so ads generally don't influence me. :-)

    Man, some of the salespeople are so predictable. I think, for the most part, the process has been decent but some folks try too hard when speaking to an enthusiast. I think when a car becomes a quasi-commodity (like the Civic, which is the best-selling car in CA or Los Angeles – can't remember which), customer service takes a hit; can't explain why the VW salesmen have been so lame.

    New shipment at the local Mazda dealership so I'll check out their new inventory before I start playing hardball.

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