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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    Quote Originally Posted by osbornk View Post
    What kind of car? My 2011 Kia Optima I had and the 2006 Miata I currently have has a little button on the door handle that unlocks the door. My Honda CRV unlocks when you put your hand on the door handle. I have never had to take the fob out of my pocket on any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnout Czar View Post
    Seems like all you get these days for rentals are Kia's and Hyundai's. They are real **** boxes. I can't imagine the stinger being much different. You Aussies have fallen a far way if this is the stuff you think qualifies as a good car.
    The Stinger is very different from much of the Kia range.

    Also, all Hyundais and Kias have suspension work done in Australia to suit our tastes.

    Another important point is that in the US, cars are cheap AF. To remain competitive, your base models are below ours in a number of key measures. As an example, your previous Malibu poverty pack was not offered here, and your mid spec sold as our base model didn't even make an impact on the segment. The highest spec model even less so. Both manufacturers offer exceptional warranty coverage, so the **** boxes you are referring to have been specced and tuned to market expectations and viability.

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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnout Czar View Post
    Seems like all you get these days for rentals are Kia's and Hyundai's. They are real **** boxes. I can't imagine the stinger being much different. You Aussies have fallen a far way if this is the stuff you think qualifies as a good car.
    Shows just how far GM have fallen then! The Hyundai/Kia models we get in Europe are better than the equivalent Opel/Vauxhalls and way better than the Chevrolet *** boxes sent to Europe.

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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    Quote Originally Posted by mikmak View Post
    The Stinger is very different from much of the Kia range.

    Also, all Hyundais and Kias have suspension work done in Australia to suit our tastes.

    Another important point is that in the US, cars are cheap AF. To remain competitive, your base models are below ours in a number of key measures. As an example, your previous Malibu poverty pack was not offered here, and your mid spec sold as our base model didn't even make an impact on the segment. The highest spec model even less so. Both manufacturers offer exceptional warranty coverage, so the **** boxes you are referring to have been specced and tuned to market expectations and viability.

    In short, you've made your bed and now must sleep in it.
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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    I guess Fiat doesn't bring over the Dodge Charger to Aussie Land? You guys always loved the big V8's. I would take a Hemi Charger over Kia junk for my 50 grand.

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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    Quote Originally Posted by joey View Post
    I guess Fiat doesn't bring over the Dodge Charger to Aussie Land? You guys always loved the big V8's. I would take a Hemi Charger over Kia junk for my 50 grand.
    I would love Chrysler to bring the Charger over here. But they haven't. And yes we still love V8s but there aren't any.

    As for junk, nobody else in Australia, let me say that again NOBODY else in Australia offered a 7 years unlimited km warranty until Kia had. If your products are junk, you can't afford to offer that kind of warranty, especially in a country that is as big as the US but 10th the population. Many people do big ks just to visit their relatives. Chrysler warranty for the 300c in Australia is 3 years/100,000kms. Hardly confidence inspiring.
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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    How did you find the headroom and space in the back?

    I sat in one at the Perth Motor Pavillion.
    It was a nice car, but the back was bit squishy and anyone over 5,7 kept hitting their heads on the roof.
    TBH, I felt that it was more of a 4 seater than a 5.
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    Yep, Optima has better rear headroom. So too the Sonata and Camry #RHEADROOM. Calais/Commodore liftback is quite tight though not quite Stinger tight.
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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    Excellent write up and review. Thank you for such a fine effort.

    I’m personally not interested in a Kia stinger but your review kept me on the edge of my seat with interest.

    I look forward to future articles ..

    Hope you had fun.

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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    Quote Originally Posted by mikmak View Post
    I would love Chrysler to bring the Charger over here. But they haven't. And yes we still love V8s but there aren't any.

    As for junk, nobody else in Australia, let me say that again NOBODY else in Australia offered a 7 years unlimited km warranty until Kia had. If your products are junk, you can't afford to offer that kind of warranty, especially in a country that is as big as the US but 10th the population. Many people do big ks just to visit their relatives. Chrysler warranty for the 300c in Australia is 3 years/100,000kms. Hardly confidence inspiring.
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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I'll be interested in how it sells. As you said, any manufacturer can build something like this, but I suspect the sales volume isn't there to justify it.

    The Stinger thus far is selling pretty well.

    Sold 1,761 here last month.

    In its 5 largest markets (US, Korea, EU, Australia and Canada) did over 3,200 in sales last month (and some markets, like Canada, are still waiting for the 2.0T powertrain).

    The Stinger outsold the Lexus IS in the EU and in the German-speaking and Scandinavian markets, the Stinger outsells the entire Lexus RWD car lineup, if not both Lexus and Infiniti RWD models.

    In the EU markets w/ higher CO2 taxes, the V6 Stinger costs as much as a Panamera.

    Sales there should increase when Kia adds the hybrid variant; a hybrid w/ the upcoming, new 2.5TT (300+ HP) should be plenty of power for most.

    In Australia, 78% of Stinger buyers opt for the most expensive GT variant and 82% going for the V6.

    And 35% of buyers V6 buyers are opting to add the dealer-fit bimodal sports exhaust, a $2659.99 option, pushing the price to nearly AU$63k.

    The Stinger certainly isn't perfect.

    Aside from the US-spec being decontented versus the EU, Canadian and Australian versions, Kia certainly could tweak the suspension and ramp up the sport in the sport+ mode (and/or offer a GT-S variant).

    Even tho the Stinger was developed to be a Gran Tourer, they could have added a more hard-core mode/variant for those looking for it (w/o having to go the after-market route).

    The G70 has those attributes; while some of it can be attributed to the G70's shorter wheelbase and lighter weight, it also was given a more track-focused bent in development.

    Here's a great comparison btwn the Stinger GT AWD and 'Stang GT.

    Really like Throttle House reviews as are more enthusiast-oriented (Thomas is a Time Attack driver).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdsxfTJiTVw

    Here's his review of the G70 AWD w/ references/comparisons to the Stinger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnout Czar View Post
    Seems like all you get these days for rentals are Kia's and Hyundai's. They are real **** boxes. I can't imagine the stinger being much different. You Aussies have fallen a far way if this is the stuff you think qualifies as a good car.
    Actually, will find more Toyotas and Nissans on rental lots.

    And funny, most H/K models are ranked higher than their Toyota and Nissan counterparts by Car & Driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YEH View Post
    In the EU markets w/ higher CO2 taxes, the V6 Stinger costs as much as a Panamera.

    That must be a strange effect of local taxes in the country used for comparison - in the UK, the Stinger V6 is £41,000 while the Panamera is from £68,000 - both cars getting standard 20% VAT and higher first year rate of annual taxation (included in OTR prices)
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    Re: GMI Drives: Kia Stinger 330Si

    In my country cheapest model of KIA Stinger cost around 55000 €. (2.0 T). The most expensive one 3.3 V6 T (without any additional equipment) cost around 78 000 E. Cheapest Porsche Panamera Cost around 110-120 000€ (final price is not put on pages for my country so it could be more.).

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