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    This company is in the running for the next USPS delivery vehicle contract so this could be a big deal for Lordstown. If they don't get the contract then they will probably be SOL.
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    So if Workhorse has a “minority interest”, GM retains a majority interest? Almost like a joint venture ?

    “Upon final agreement, the entity, led by Workhorse founder Steve Burns, would acquire the facility. Workhorse would hold a minority interest in the new entity.”
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    Re: Lordstown Sold?

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg View Post
    So if Workhorse has a «*minority interest*», GM retains a majority interest? Almost like a joint venture ?

    «*Upon final agreement, the entity, led by Workhorse founder Steve Burns, would acquire the facility. Workhorse would hold a minority interest in the new entity.«*
    Kinda like the former GM plant at Freemont who had became the NUMMI plant with Toyota?

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    Re: Workhorse: Lordstown Sold to EV pickup truck maker

    "The UAW’s position is unequivocal: General Motors should assign a product to the Lordstown facility and continue operating it," said UAW Vice President Terry Dittes, who oversees negotiations with GM
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    This is like a bad break-up.. Someone needs to just sit the UAW down and say: "GM DOESN'T WANT U ANYMORE... GET IT THRU YOUR HEAD!!! She said U're Lazy.. U want too much.. The neighbors don't even want to come to your cook outs anymore.. Toyota and Honda's man GIVES!!! All U do is TAKE!!! Unless U leave.. GM is gonna start dating the Workers in Mexico .. or maybe the ones and China. U stink too "
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    Re: Workhorse: Lordstown Sold to EV pickup truck maker

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    This is like a bad break-up.. Someone needs to just sit the UAW down and say: "GM DOESN'T WANT U ANYMORE... GET IT THRU YOUR HEAD!!! She said U're Lazy.. U want too much.. The neighbors don't even want to come to your cook outs anymore.. Toyota and Honda's man GIVES!!! All U do is TAKE!!! Unless U leave.. GM is gonna start dating the Workers in Mexico .. or maybe the ones and China. U stink too "
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    Re: Workhorse: Lordstown Sold to EV pickup truck maker

    Quote Originally Posted by canadian.bacon View Post
    That workhorse looks exactly like a GM truck. They gotta be related somehow. Square wheel wells, rear bumper foot steps, rear door window shape upwards to the pillar...
    It still has the gas cap on the left side and in an article, the power outlet is on the right side.
    I thought it was a Space Odyssey Chibby, mon.

    W-15 is a hybrid, haven't heard that mentioned. Also, SHAZAM!, there are a few development problems. And I thought you could just throw a motor vehicle together as easily as a plastic model kit. Hmmm.

    Also, "accelerate like a freight train" is perhaps not the analogy the writer was looking for. Or he's never watched a choo choo train accelerate 0-60 in 20 minutes.



    President Donald Trump surprised electric vehicle insiders when he announced General Motors will sell its Lordstown, Ohio, plant to Workhorse Group Inc. to produce electric pickup trucks in a Tweet on Wednesday.


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    GREAT NEWS FOR OHIO! Just spoke to Mary Barra, CEO of General Motors, who informed me that, subject to a UAW agreement etc., GM will be selling their beautiful Lordstown Plant to Workhorse, where they plan to build Electric Trucks. GM will also be spending $700,000,000 in Ohio...

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    Workhorse builds electric commercial vehicles such as trucks, delivery vans and even drones. However, the company has failed to bring a fully electric vehicle to market. And its W-15 pickup is still in development several years after its public debut.

    Trucks.com drove an early prototype of the electric W-15 truck in 2017 at the Advanced Clean Transportation Expo in Long Beach, Calif. Here’s what we learned:

    Electric power: The Workhorse W-15 is powered by lithium-ion batteries made by Panasonic that are mounted to the floor of the truck, lending it a low center of gravity. The batteries power dual electric motors that give the W-15 about 450 horsepower and 80 miles of all-electric range.
    One fast truck: The electric motors make the W-15 accelerate like a freight train, quickly building momentum in near silence. Since it doesn’t need to change gears, the truck rushes forward without interruptions. It goes from 0 to 60 mph in 5.5 seconds.
    Range extender: A small 1.5-liter three-cylinder BMW gasoline engine provides extra driving range in case the batteries run out of charge. The engine generates power to operate the electric motors – it does not drive the wheels on its own.
    Work site toughness: Though the W-15 is meant primarily as a statement piece for construction foremen, it’s engineered for strength. The truck has a maximum payload capacity of 2,200 pounds and maximum towing capacity of 5,000 pounds.
    Braking issues: While the electric powertrain provides more than enough muscle, the W-15 needs brakes more suited to the task. The W-15 is not tuned to automatically brake when the gas pedal lets off, as many automakers’ electric vehicles do. Workhorse may make regenerative braking more aggressive for production.
    Carbon fiber body: The prototype Trucks.com tested used body panels made of lightweight carbon fiber to make the vehicle rigid yet light. The material helped the W-15 offset the hefty weight of the batteries. Production versions will use more cost-effective composite plastic.
    Unfinished model: Workhorse planned to make changes to the W-15 driven in 2017. Its body panels were creaky, and some fit and finish could be improved, especially on the interior.
    2018 changes: The company revealed a slight redesign in 2018 that featured a modified chassis and new bumpers. It also had a longer cabin, a 6.5-foot bed and an optional roof-mounted light bar. Standard safety features include automatic emergency braking, lane-departure warning and blind-spot monitoring.
    Unknown future: Workhorse accepted thousands of deposits for consumer and commercial versions of the W-15 pickup truck. But the company has released few updates since the 2018 redesign. In March, executives announced Workhorse would hold off on the W-15 and focus on electric vans due to financial setbacks.


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    Re: Workhorse: Lordstown Sold to EV pickup truck maker

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
    GM sells Lordstown to Workhorse.

    Workhorse builds trucks.

    GM buys Workhorse.

    GM buys back Lordstown.

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    Profit?
    That's an interesting proposition. I guess we shall see as to what eventually comes of all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
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    Probably for the same reason any of the rest of us or whomever would. Because it happened to be exactly what they wanted and wouldn't compromise or something to that tune.

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    Re: Workhorse: Lordstown Sold to EV pickup truck maker

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg View Post
    So if Workhorse has a “minority interest”, GM retains a majority interest? Almost like a joint venture ?

    “Upon final agreement, the entity, led by Workhorse founder Steve Burns, would acquire the facility. Workhorse would hold a minority interest in the new entity.”

    IMHO, I do not think that the brass at GM are fully confident in "an all electric future" and is not willing to make a wholesale change to all its plants to support this. Like Cruise, this Lordstown venture may be a holding company or joint venture to produce electric commercial vehicles. If successful it may be spun off in later years or brought into the GM fold. If not, it will be dissolved and GM will only loose a portion of what they would have otherwise lost if they went both feet in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    So....is this where we are? Apparently we're now making up companies to claim a win? Has anyone even heard of "Workhorse" electric trucks?

    Edit: Apparently they're real, lets see how this plays out...good news for the Lordstown folk if this pulls through and is viable.
    Workhorse may just be a management operation. FCA, for example, built a new axle plant in Michigan, staffed it with all FCA employees, but it is run by ZF. Perhaps GM just wants to outsource the expertise of building electric commercial vehicles to Workhorse while providing the facility, employees, and perhaps some of their own trucks to convert to CEVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradokid View Post
    Workhorse may just be a management operation. FCA, for example, built a new axle plant in Michigan, staffed it with all FCA employees, but it is run by ZF. Perhaps GM just wants to outsource the expertise of building electric commercial vehicles to Workhorse while providing the facility, employees, and perhaps some of their own trucks to convert to CEVs.
    Would Workhorse get tax credits selling trucks to the government? I don't see why they wouldn't.
    This could be a workaround with GM being out of them. Much better chance of winning a bid if you can bid $7500 less.
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