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    What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    The Wall Street Journal
    November 9, 2020

    A Biden administration could mean lots of change for the auto industry along with a sense of déjà vu, with many of the president-elect’s plans echoing the Obama-era playbook on electric vehicles and stricter auto-emission limits.

    Electric vehicles are key to Mr. Biden’s economic ambitions and pledge to create one million auto-sector jobs. His $2 trillion infrastructure plan calls for installing a half-million charging stations nationwide. Such support could be a boon for Tesla Inc., General Motors Co. and other car companies rushing to sell more battery-powered vehicles.

    Mr. Biden is expected to push for tougher fuel-economy regulations for auto makers and has said he plans to work with California and other states on aligning requirements for emissions.







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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    54.5 by '25 again?

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    I've been saying it the whole time Trump has been in office - once he is gone we are going back to tighter regulations, even if there were another republican president. I think GM was wise to stick with its BEV plans.

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    Makes me want to drive my Great Uncle’s ‘74 Grand Prix to the White House, do donuts, park it in front of the Oval Office, and leave a brick on the accelerator then leave the car.

    Choke on it Biden. I’ll never buy an electric or hybrid or some other tree hugger car.

    Remember now, Joe has a ‘67 Vette convertible 4 speed in his personal collection. He lit the tires up on it with Jay Leno.

    The guy is as phony as a $3.00 bill if he’s pushing for electric cars. Deep down he’s a real car guy. Just to get (questionable) votes.
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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    Excited to see what Biden has to offer to the Automotive industry.

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    This is going to be a great thread
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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    I will leave the trolling alone BUT increased push FOR EV infrastructure AND a "path" that will LEAD US car makers to a GLOBAL relevance VS making cars / LARGE PUTs that are completely UNSELLABLE outside of North America AND watch the Japanese/Chines/Euro brands "conquer Detroit" again
    PS I have NEVER seen ANYBODY suggest a push towards cleaner AND better performance cars = removal of CLASSIC cars already owned
    I dont like the doubling down on CAFE ratings as I believe it is 100% flawed and designed to FAIL

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I've been saying it the whole time Trump has been in office - once he is gone we are going back to tighter regulations, even if there were another republican president. I think GM was wise to stick with its BEV plans.
    Exactly. Policies will change every time a new guy comes into office but the manufacturers need to stick to a strong long-term strategy. Plus, even if you could sustain some policy trajectory in one country, that's still just one market.
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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    Ford and GM stuck to their more aggressive efficiency plans so it doesn't matter that much. What will be interesting is the status of tariffs which has effected some product planning.
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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    So as the Biden/Harris admin regulates more and slowly paves the way for banning ICE from future production for GM and others, I also envision an America where finding and paying for fossil fuels will just not be worth keeping said vehicles around. Literally millions of classic cars, for example, suddenly would have no value, except for a few museum pieces. And I bet this all begins to happen, in just a few years.

    And as I say that, I recognize that my post straddles the policies of political discourse and will probably get removed. Shame. It's a very interesting topic. About as interesting as one could get.

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    Better find a solution for the millions of apartment dwellers who have to park on the street or parking decks as well as all those who simply cannot afford an EV no matter how small, plus a myriad of other circumstances that would currently preclude an EV purchase.

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    It's going to take a long time to transition from ICE cars to EV cars. I now drive a Bolt and there are some things about it that make me wonder why anyone would ever consider an ICE car. There are also some things I miss from my old ICE cars. I will definitely say this however... for those that consider a car an appliance going from A to B, there is little reason to not consider an EV.

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    2035 is where we're looking at having all new car sales as EVs...there are still going to be used ICE sales and ICE infrastructure in place. It isn't going to disappear altogether on 12/31/2034...from there you'll probably be looking at higher fuel costs to drive buyers into new/used EVs and also keep in mind that EV tech will probably be in a place where you can get 300mi of charge in 5 mins or so...

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    Also...for those that are going to be 80 years old or so in 2035, no worries your EV will be able to pick up your free meds thanks to Medicare from CVS without you
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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    Quote Originally Posted by DreadNaughty View Post
    So as the Biden/Harris admin regulates more and slowly paves the way for banning ICE from future production for GM and others, I also envision an America where finding and paying for fossil fuels will just not be worth keeping said vehicles around. Literally millions of classic cars, for example, suddenly would have no value, except for a few museum pieces. And I bet this all begins to happen, in just a few years.

    And as I say that, I recognize that my post straddles the policies of political discourse and will probably get removed. Shame. It's a very interesting topic. About as interesting as one could get.
    It will be interesting, if BEV's take off eventually the weaker (low profits) gas stations will close down. This will inconvenience some as they have to use one that's farther away. As more people buy BEV's more gas stations will go out of business. At some point the inconvenience factor will push more into BEV's (having to drive out of the way to get gas AND those fewer gas stations will have longer lines).

    Additionally, as less people use gas, the gas industry will stop investing. I think at first there will be low prices/overcapacity. But then the oil producers will tighten supplies and refineries will stop investing in maintenance. Eventually the price of gas will go up as less people use it. Again, pushing people into BEV's.

    We can safely talk about politics as long as it pertains to the auto industry.

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    Re: What The Biden Administration Could Mean To GM

    Quote Originally Posted by criticalmass View Post
    Better find a solution for the millions of apartment dwellers who have to park on the street or parking decks as well as all those who simply cannot afford an EV no matter how small, plus a myriad of other circumstances that would currently preclude an EV purchase.
    charging stations at grocery stores, malls, laundromats, gyms, businesses.... Many of these places already have charging stations, just need more of them.

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