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    The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...cid=spartanntp

    January 30, 2020

    After the windshield cracked on Ted Hine’s 2017 Subaru Forester, he was shocked when a dealership quoted $1,400 for a replacement. Safelite AutoGlass, a national auto glass repair and replacement chain, was cheaper but still surprisingly high at $910. Hine recalled paying $150 as recently as five years ago for a similar repair on his previous car, and a mobile technician did the job right in his driveway.

    “I’m 74 years old and retired, on a limited fixed income,” Hine said. “I can’t afford $900-plus for a windshield every time a truck randomly throws a rock at me.”

    Hine’s Subaru has EyeSight, a suite of advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) that includes forward collision warning (FCW), automatic emergency braking (AEB), lane departure warning (LDW), and adaptive cruise control (ACC). EyeSight’s components include a pair of cameras mounted inside the windshield that help ACC and other convenience and advanced safety systems, such as AEB, calculate the distance from the car to objects ahead. A windshield replacement for Hine’s Subaru now requires glass that’s more complex to manufacture, so the cameras can see clearly. The cameras must also be recalibrated by technicians using expensive equipment.

    EyeSight is available on most new Subarus. The manufacturer isn’t the only one with this type of system. Most new cars and trucks for sale are now available with various ADAS features.

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Long read but interesting. It's an obvious topic when you stop and think about it, but I had never stopped and thought about it. Amazing about some of the costs they quoted with having all of these sensors. I still want them - I don't pretend that I've never looked down at the radio then looked up in a panic and had to hit the brakes hard. I for one appreciate all the help I can get to avoid such incidences.

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    And we wonder why the prices of vehicles are going into the stratosphere. All these things we think we have to have today. Remember the good old days with hand crank windows, AM/FM radio, 2 speed wipers and the like...

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    People also fall into this false sense of extra safety and they no longer have to worry about driving defensively. All of this over priced junk cannot avoid most accidents. Staying off your cell phones will give you a thousand times better safety.

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    For me the real crazy is the commercial where the dad looks in the back seat at the kids and misses the brakes in front. Then time slows and he looks at his wife and kids, but the car saves him. I know they think they are selling good, but I take serious issues with it. 1. wtf, why is he looking in the back seat at his kids in the first place? Wife is sitting next to him and is not driving. If the kids need attending, the passenger should be doing it. 2. Why is he looking at wife & kids when he is in an emergency situation, after he misses the braking car in front, he really thinks it is a good idea to look at the kids again, before the imminent crash? What the commercial conveys to me is don't pay attention, the car will take care of you, an incompetent idiot.

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagon11 View Post
    For me the real crazy is the commercial where the dad looks in the back seat at the kids and misses the brakes in front. Then time slows and he looks at his wife and kids, but the car saves him. I know they think they are selling good, but I take serious issues with it. 1. wtf, why is he looking in the back seat at his kids in the first place? Wife is sitting next to him and is not driving. If the kids need attending, the passenger should be doing it. 2. Why is he looking at wife & kids when he is in an emergency situation, after he misses the braking car in front, he really thinks it is a good idea to look at the kids again, before the imminent crash? What the commercial conveys to me is don't pay attention, the car will take care of you, an incompetent idiot.
    He's a dumb

    The ad writer/s a dumb

    The agency staff probably don't drive.

    Then at the end, the kid makes a face at dad because he's a dumbass and 6-year-olds making fun of adults is high humor and has been for a long time.
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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...cid=spartanntp

    January 30, 2020

    After the windshield cracked on Ted Hine’s 2017 Subaru Forester, he was shocked when a dealership quoted $1,400 for a replacement. Safelite AutoGlass, a national auto glass repair and replacement chain, was cheaper but still surprisingly high at $910. Hine recalled paying $150 as recently as five years ago for a similar repair on his previous car, and a mobile technician did the job right in his driveway.

    “I’m 74 years old and retired, on a limited fixed income,” Hine said. “I can’t afford $900-plus for a windshield every time a truck randomly throws a rock at me.”

    Hine’s Subaru has EyeSight, a suite of advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) that includes forward collision warning (FCW), automatic emergency braking (AEB), lane departure warning (LDW), and adaptive cruise control (ACC). EyeSight’s components include a pair of cameras mounted inside the windshield that help ACC and other convenience and advanced safety systems, such as AEB, calculate the distance from the car to objects ahead. A windshield replacement for Hine’s Subaru now requires glass that’s more complex to manufacture, so the cameras can see clearly. The cameras must also be recalibrated by technicians using expensive equipment.

    EyeSight is available on most new Subarus. The manufacturer isn’t the only one with this type of system. Most new cars and trucks for sale are now available with various ADAS features.

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    Mr. Ted Hine should buy comprehensive glass coverage (with a deductible or no deductible), so he won’t have to worry about paying $910 for glass replacement. Glass breakage coverage on vehicles is very affordable.

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    It's the 100 different 'very affordables' which add up to one big 'unaffordable'. Should Mr Hine also not worry about paying for a separate glass rider for 15 or 20 years when he may never break a windshield?

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Quote Originally Posted by 1999 White C5 Coupe View Post
    Mr. Ted Hine should buy comprehensive glass coverage (with a deductible or no deductible), so he won’t have to worry about paying $910 for glass replacement. Glass breakage coverage on vehicles is very affordable.
    I've had my windshield replaced 3 times in my lifetime with glass coverage. $0 out of pocket.

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Quote Originally Posted by joey View Post
    People also fall into this false sense of extra safety and they no longer have to worry about driving defensively. All of this over priced junk cannot avoid most accidents. Staying off your cell phones will give you a thousand times better safety.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_...n_U.S._by_year

    Except the death rate per mile driven has been going down in spite of people using cell phones while driving.... I do agree that nothing is better than being attentive and you can't 100% rely on these aids, but I think it's undeniable that they do more good than bad.

    I want this safety help. I won't pretend my eyes stay glued to the road and hands glued to the steering wheel 100% of the time.

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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

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    He's a dumb

    The ad writer/s a dumb

    The agency staff probably don't drive.

    Then at the end, the kid makes a face at dad because he's a dumbass and 6-year-olds making fun of adults is high humor and has been for a long time.

    Did you HAVE to bring up Gretchen Thornbutt again? I thought she had melted. Or melted down, leastwise.

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    Strange , I have been driving with a cracked windshield in my 2004 Silverado for ten years or more and have not had an issue it seems strange to me to even worry about it .
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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Quote Originally Posted by 1999 White C5 Coupe View Post
    Mr. Ted Hine should buy comprehensive glass coverage (with a deductible or no deductible), so he won’t have to worry about paying $910 for glass replacement. Glass breakage coverage on vehicles is very affordable.
    Most people don't know about that coverage. Most people do not have to replace windshields. Most people don't know the cost of the toys in their cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by 09W View Post
    It's the 100 different 'very affordables' which add up to one big 'unaffordable'. Should Mr Hine also not worry about paying for a separate glass rider for 15 or 20 years when he may never break a windshield?
    Insurance. Playing the odds. Odds are he wouldn't have gotten stuck with that whack the first time. Unfortunately the odds won.

    Quote Originally Posted by hiluxxulih View Post
    Strange , I have been driving with a cracked windshield in my 2004 Silverado for ten years or more and have not had an issue it seems strange to me to even worry about it .
    Not everyone can do that. Some states will require you to replace that glass. Many cracks will get worse over time. You beat the odds on that one.

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    Did you HAVE to bring up Gretchen Thornbutt again? I thought she had melted. Or melted down, leastwise.
    We met her twin sister recently. She's a local physician assistant. Manic, disorganized, can't read, full of herself. Is that close?
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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_...n_U.S._by_year

    Except the death rate per mile driven has been going down in spite of people using cell phones while driving.... I do agree that nothing is better than being attentive and you can't 100% rely on these aids, but I think it's undeniable that they do more good than bad.

    I want this safety help. I won't pretend my eyes stay glued to the road and hands glued to the steering wheel 100% of the time.
    That's interesting, I thought I had heard rates were up. Maybe I was thinking of pedestrian deaths which are up a lot since 2010:



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    Re: The Hidden Cost of Car Safety Features

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyg View Post
    That's interesting, I thought I had heard rates were up. Maybe I was thinking of pedestrian deaths which are up a lot since 2010:



    https://www.ghsa.org/resources/Pedestrians19
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