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    GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch
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    July 24, 2019
    By Gary Gastelu

    General Motors-controlled Cruise is delaying the rollout of a commercial self-driving taxi service that it previously said would start in 2019.

    The autonomous tech firm has mainly been testing vehicles on public streets in San Francisco, where it also shuttles employees in Chevrolet Bolt electric cars outfitted with cameras, Lidar and radar systems that are manufactured under the Cruise brand name. Back-up drivers are onboard all of the vehicles to monitor their operation.

    Cruise CEO Dan Ammann wrote in a Medium post updating the company’s progress that it plans to win “the tech and the trust race” in the burgeoning self-driving car segment.

    “When you’re working on the large scale deployment of mission critical safety systems, the mindset of ‘move fast and break things’ certainly doesn’t cut it,” Ammann wrote.

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    I wish they'd give more reasons why they are delaying the launch. I'm sure it is something with the technology, but what specifically?

    Edit: this is a better article
    https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...xi/1814029001/

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    A Goog search turns up law firm after law firm. This from 2017. They don't mention WHICH road:

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    One advantage of self driving vehicles is a reduction in the number of car accidents, according to technology experts and supporters of the vehicles. They note that the vast majority of accidents are caused by human error, and say that eliminating the human means eliminating the error.

    However, everyone agrees that not all crashes will completely end. Both Uber and Tesla have experienced crashes in their self driving vehicles. Moreover, there are levels of automation in many cars, including drive assisted or driver monitored. That means there will still be accidents, but the responsibility for the crash is likely to shift.

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    I take comfort that GM is not rushing to roll out the Cruise Autonomous car before it is ready. I want GM to succeed even if the roll out is limited and modest. The technology is still being over hyped. That draws lawyers like flies to honey. The car companies are still trying to obtain immunity from liability from the Federal Government. Otherwise, all they will accomplish is a legal feeding frenzy.

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpole View Post
    I take comfort that GM is not rushing to roll out the Cruise Autonomous car before it is ready. I want GM to succeed even if the roll out is limited and modest. The technology is still being over hyped. That draws lawyers like flies to honey. The car companies are still trying to obtain immunity from liability from the Federal Government. Otherwise, all they will accomplish is a legal feeding frenzy.
    Ouch. If you have any recommendations, Rumpole of the Bailey, as far as any tort firm investments you might recommend as soon as this hits the fan, I mean the streets, I'd appreciate it. Asking for a friend.
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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    it's funny how nobody mentions that the insurance rates should drop since there is no longer the human error....

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Quote Originally Posted by canadian.bacon View Post
    it's funny how nobody mentions that the insurance rates should drop since there is no longer the human error....
    Offset by a corresponding increase in car prices due to all of the added tech and the shift in liability from the many to the few.
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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I wish they'd give more reasons why they are delaying the launch. I'm sure it is something with the technology, but what specifically?

    Edit: this is a better article
    https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...xi/1814029001/
    This is not surprising. The 2019 target was was too aggressive, especially in a place like San Francisco where people drive like maniacs (the hardest thing for self-driving systems to deal with might be the unpredictability of human drivers around them).

    Also worth noting that Ammann is not committing to a new timeline, at least for now. Which is probably smart. It's good that GM wants high confidence in the technology before deploying. However, I also hope they don't take the typical GM approach of extreme risk avoidance, where they get to market several years after everyone else despite leading in technology development.
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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Quote Originally Posted by canadian.bacon View Post
    it's funny how nobody mentions that the insurance rates should drop since there is no longer the human error....
    As long as there are humans, there will be human error. Once SkyNet takes over, OTOH...

    But as eaton says, more complex cars--mbuk's thread on the new Corvette frame, which morphed into a discussion of DoD-level repair costs for extremely complex and sophisticated systems-- plus the massive liability that WILL incur, will do nothing but drive ALL costs up. You can take that to the bank.

    'lektrik nirvana is not just around the corner, despite what the futurists/delusionalists may guarantee us. What works now, works for a reason. It's imperfect, , but it's evolved slowly. Force-feeding a zerozerozero/zeroIQ la-la land future based on absolutely nothing except hot air, does not mean it will work out like that.

    Me, I'm still waiting on the flying cars, coming in just years, that will eliminate almost all accidents and traffic congestion!
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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    Me, I'm still waiting on the flying cars, coming in just years, that will eliminate almost all accidents and traffic congestion!
    A decade ago, Onion News Network made it clear that the "jury is still out on flying cars".

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Not postponing. Delayed indefinitely. The hype finally met reality:

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...ns/1813618001/

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post

    One advantage of self driving vehicles is a reduction in the number of car accidents, according to technology experts and supporters of the vehicles. They note that the vast majority of accidents are caused by human error, and say that eliminating the human means eliminating the error.

    However, everyone agrees that not all crashes will completely end. Both Uber and Tesla have experienced crashes in their self driving vehicles. Moreover, there are levels of automation in many cars, including drive assisted or driver monitored. That means there will still be accidents, but the responsibility for the crash is likely to shift. [/I]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    Ouch. If you have any recommendations, Rumpole of the Bailey, as far as any tort firm investments you might recommend as soon as this hits the fan, I mean the streets, I'd appreciate it. Asking for a friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 62Lincoln View Post
    Not postponing. Delayed indefinitely. The hype finally met reality:

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...ns/1813618001/
    I recall a year or so ago; some guy was on CNBC, he said we are closer to flying cars, than autonomous ones, they all looked at him like he was crazy!

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    No, it's your lawyer's fault.
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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    They're finding out it ain't what it's cracked up to be. Too many kinks.

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    Re: GM's Cruise autonomous car company postpones self-driving taxi launch

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I wish they'd give more reasons why they are delaying the launch. I'm sure it is something with the technology, but what specifically?

    Edit: this is a better article
    https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...xi/1814029001/
    Its a simple question of higher standards by GM

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