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    GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...in/2329491001/

    September 14, 2019
    Kalea Hall

    The United Auto Workers called a strike at General Motors Co. plants nationwide starting at 11:59 p.m. Sunday after the two sides failed to reach an agreement. The walkout of 46,000 workers is the first national strike by the UAW in 12 years.

    In a surprisingly detailed statement, GM said late Sunday morning that its offer to the union includes more than $7 billion in investments. It would create more than 5,400 jobs, boost base wage rates, pay lump-sum bonuses, improve benefits — and, The Detroit News has learned, rescue its Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly from closure and build a new battery plant in northeast Ohio.

    “We presented a strong offer that improves wages, benefits and grows U.S. jobs in substantive ways and it is disappointing that the UAW leadership has chosen to strike at midnight tonight," the automaker said in a statement. "We have negotiated in good faith and with a sense of urgency. Our goal remains to build a strong future for our employees and our business.”

    GM said it specifically offered investments in eight facilities in four states. It said it proposed introduction off an all-new electric truck, as well as opening the first union-represented battery cell manufacturing site in the U.S.

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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Half of me respects what the unions have done that have personally benefited me via better pay and working conditions. However, the other half of me says GM should shut down all the plants and move operations to Mexico out of spite. Greed on both sides of the table, each one wants a bigger paycheck.

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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    How can GM bargain in good faith with truly corrupt UAW leaders? It harkens to making a deal with the devil.
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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    How can GM bargain in good faith with truly corrupt UAW leaders? It harkens to making a deal with the devil.
    You honestly think that there wasn't(still isn't) equal corruption on managements side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowboy View Post
    You honestly think that there wasn't(still isn't) equal corruption on managements side?
    I don't know, but it seems GM made a fair and rational offer. Do you have faith in the proven corrupt UAW leadership?
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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    and, The Detroit News has learned, rescue its Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly from closure and build a new battery plant in northeast Ohio.
    Wow, nobody seen that coming!
    Oh, wait: (11/28/2018)

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    My prediction: Hamtramck stays open and Lordstown/Oshawa go the way of Janesville. Both component plants close.

    Going into contract negotiations GM will tell the UAW that they re-evaluated and only need to reduce capacity by 2 plants not 3. This will cause the locals to engage in a race to the bottom of who will give up the most. Then GM will take the best local offer to Hamtramck and have them match that. No need for teir2 as GM already has a completely separate labor pool that they engineered around the time lordstown went to one shift called GM subsystems manufacturing LLC.

    Hamtramck is considerably smaller than lordstown for multiple lower volume electric/hybrid options to keep those models relevant to the public. GM already pushed higher volume/margin vehicles to Mexico, ie Blazer/terrain that would have slotted perfectly in lordstown.

    What about the PR stunt GM did with the solar array at lordstown? Per GM website "Home to GM’s largest solar array installation in the Western Hemisphere". The lordstown region is one the cloudiest regions in the US, hence the WWII Ravenna arsenal. Most likely a political/public stunt since it was visible from the turnpike. LDT/springhill have plenty of open land with better sunshine figures.
    https://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/...ml#post7096753

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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    GM's offer looks pretty generous to me. What is the UAW asking for?

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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Why WOULDN'T the UAW take this offer?

    It sounds to me like UAW executives are just trying to use the "we fight for our workers" schtick after they got caught red-handed in corruption probes over the last few months.

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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Quote Originally Posted by DequindreToo View Post
    Why WOULDN'T the UAW take this offer?
    Just a thought but maybe they read the ENTIRE offer and seen what the company wants to take away as well?
    Not just the publicly released high lights.

    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    I don't know, but it seems GM made a fair and rational offer. Do you have faith in the proven corrupt UAW leadership?
    No more than the corrupt executives.
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...ms/3150753002/
    With they way corporate moves people around constantly it makes it harder to pin things to people, jmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowboy View Post
    No more than the corrupt executives.
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...ms/3150753002/
    With they way corporate moves people around constantly it makes it harder to pin things to people, jmo.
    Duly noted, but we are discussing GM in this thread, not FCA. Two wrongs don't make any of it right.
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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowboy View Post
    Just a thought but maybe they read the ENTIRE offer and seen what the company wants to take away as well?
    Not just the publicly released high lights.


    No more than the corrupt executives.
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...ms/3150753002/
    With they way corporate moves people around constantly it makes it harder to pin things to people, jmo.
    I would be fighting to keep Lordstown open because that basically guarantees that GM will outsource anything smaller then an Acadia overseas.

    I now doubt it based on what I have read but IF the UAW is trying to give back some of the proposed pay/benefit increases to save Lordstown and GM wont negotiate then I can see the rationale.

    More likely, they are just trying to squeeze GM for more dough.
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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    I would never trust GM. In a year they'll shutter Hamtramck Assembly again. They won't build a battery plant since THEY HAVE NO EV cars. The next EV model will be from Korea and LG will continue to make the batteries. We hear nothing of any EV production line, just expansion of a few SUV and pickup plants. That 7B investment is probably for China and 5,400 new workers in Mexico!

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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    GM should shut down all the plants and move operations to Mexico out of spite.
    +1
    Hopefully, GM can at least threaten to do that. There's precedent for this - in 1992, Caterpillar threatened to replace its entire unionized workforce in the U.S. following a strike by the UAW against that company.

    Some other lessons from Caterpillar that I hope GM can apply:
    • During the strike, use non-union management and professional employees to replace striking workers and continue production
    • Outsource as much non-production work as possible to third party firms
    • Increase the use of temporary employees
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    Re: GM says offer to striking UAW included Detroit plant rescue, Ohio battery plant

    Quote Originally Posted by DequindreToo View Post
    Why WOULDN'T the UAW take this offer?

    It sounds to me like UAW executives are just trying to use the "we fight for our workers" schtick after they got caught red-handed in corruption probes over the last few months.
    That's exactly what I was thinking, which puts GM in a really bad position as the union leaders are going to play tough guy and demand a lot of concessions to save face. I think GM offered a good deal, though some of the deal may have been planned - such as saying they were going to close a plant (with no intention of ever closing it) just so they could give in to the union and say they'll keep it open. Shrewd if they did that, I'd love to know if they did. I'd do that if I were in GM's shoes.

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