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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by kool1 View Post
    GM probably held back this project to wait and see how bad the reaction would be.

    Could be that it was moved from another location where it was originally planned. Who knows.
    maybe seeing how much money they could get out of various regions and the best bid won

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    Quote Originally Posted by kool1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Impossible to argue something that didn't happen, but in this case you are probably right; recall that around the time the plants were getting "unallocated" GM was resetting it's workforce for the future, it would have fit the narrative and actually gave that message, real substance and more credence. These are all things that wouldn't (or shouldn't) happen if you have a competent CMO.
    GM probably held back this project to wait and see how bad the reaction would be.

    Could be that it was moved from another location where it was originally planned. Who knows.
    I think it's simpler than all of that. I think GM is constantly and consistently under the gun of the UAW, having to maneuver with agility and suave. The foreign makers simply don't have to do this.. GM (and Ford/Chrysler) all essentially went bankrupt just a decade ago due to their obligations and legacy costs.
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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Too little, too late.

    See ya, GM, go back to your spreadsheets and stock price crunching. It was nice knowing you.

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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by neshapop View Post
    Too little, too late.

    See ya, GM, go back to your spreadsheets and stock price crunching. It was nice knowing you.
    It would be really really funny if GM read this.. then released a press release saying that they had reconsidered.. "Because some people are just blatantly ungrateful."

    U really want to be mad at someone.. be mad at UNIFOR. They are along with our UAW.. making North American Labor NONCOMPETITIVE in the industrial system.
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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by kool1 View Post
    GM probably held back this project to wait and see how bad the reaction would be.

    Could be that it was moved from another location where it was originally planned. Who knows.
    Kinda like when they decided to put a (Made in Mexico) Chevy Blazer in center field a stone's throw away from the recently "unallocated" Hamtramck Facility.
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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Kinda like when they decided to put a (Made in Mexico) Chevy Blazer in center field a stone's throw away from the recently "unallocated" Hamtramck Facility.
    I thought it was a Land Rover GM put out there.

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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Kinda like when they decided to put a (Made in Mexico) Chevy Blazer in center field a stone's throw away from the recently "unallocated" Hamtramck Facility.
    Play ball!

    That was crazy stupid.

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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by kool1 View Post
    Play ball!

    That was crazy stupid.
    What's ironic is that a significant number of baseball players these days are also "imported" from South America. But nobody seems to care about that!
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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Mexico is in North America.

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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by chain777 View Post
    Mexico is in North America.
    But there is a certain racial difference with Mexico that Canada seemly doesn't have.. of course most people who feel that way don't actually seem to realize that Canada has a LOT of immigrants from Mexico and South America.. and.. ut oh.. ASIA, Its literally why we are cool with German cars being considered better than American cars.. from git, but it took the Japanese a while to be seen as superior.. and we absolutely don't want the Chinese cars here.
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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Clownzilla View Post
    Even if they announced this earlier this would of still been spun to make GM look just as bad. Jobs were going to be lost regardless but saving 300 and loosing 2600 jobs are equivalently evil when talking about GM (I think it's a law now or something).
    GM looks bad because they are ending 2600 jobs here and opening them down in Mexico. It's not like they don't need the workers, they want to squeeze more profit out of it.
    Have you seen any savings on the MSRP? There's gotta be a huge difference between Mexico and Canada in terms of $/hr which now GM is simply pocketing.
    Capitalistic economy is a harsh mistress. They follow profits and as of late, this seems to be their only goal.

    Why do you think they don't open up these 300 jobs also down in Mexico? They need the brains, honey. This isn't some simply factory worker job. Do you think GM hires 300 people here because they want to? They need to, the right qualifications are still here, otherwise they would've gone there altogether. Wake up !

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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Buttons View Post
    I thought it was a Land Rover GM put out there.
    Then you called LensCrafters because you realized you had horrendous vision problems.��

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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    Canada has a LOT of immigrants from Mexico and South America.. and.. ut oh.. ASIA
    Asia, definitely. Mexico and South America, not so much. Europe and the USA are well represented though.

    Here are the top 20 sources for immigrants in Canada as of 2016:

    1 India
    2 China (PRC, not including Hong Kong)
    3 Philippines
    4 United Kingdom
    5 United States
    6 Italy
    7 Hong Kong
    8 Pakistan
    9 Vietnam
    10 Iran
    11 Poland
    12 Germany
    13 Portugal
    14 Jamaica
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    16 South Korea
    17 France
    18 Haiti
    19 Romania
    20 Lebanon

    Mexico ranks #23, representing about 1.1% of all immigrants in Canada. No South American country accounts for 1% or more; of those countries, Colombia had the highest total with about 0.93% (about the same as Morocco).
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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    IMHO, electric powered and autonomous vehicles is a little premature. On hot summer days, folks get home and turn on the A/C to max. And up till now things have been precariously held at bay. But I know of no massive work do on the nations infrastructure and or the power grid. Before retiring, I worked in NYC and remember very well back in 2003 when a transformer in Ohio, blew and that shut down the Canadian transfer unit which cut all power to the Mid-Atlantic states. I was sitting on the FDR expressway, and could see the George Washington bridge ( only a 3 minute drive prior) and it took 3 hours to get up there.

    Now unless I've been in the dark (Figuratively speaking ) Where is the electricity needed to power any more or just be able to keep current power demands on the grid up and running? I don't care if it's a GM or Elon Musk vehicle or a simple home computer. You can't get something from nothing. In the urban city areas, it's a real task just keep your car from being stolen, than to recharge it's battery. GM Ford and Chrysler all need to deal with the powering issue first. It took years for the gasoline fueling issue before you could go on a long drive in fear of running out of gasoline. and now electricity.

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    Re: GM to keep Oshawa plant alive, preserving 300 jobs

    GM should still build a worldclass mid size and compact car on platforms that also make SUVs...plus we need some smaller RWD/AWD SUVs as well such as Ford is doing with the new explorer. GM sedan sales were weak because they were not the best in class. And honestly I don't see the reality behind the push for autonomous and electric cars. A product noone really wants. Gas is cheap and cars are more efficient than ever. The impact of using electric cars would be negligible on the environment. Its all an artificial concern. Why not develop world class hybrids that get 500+ mile ranges.

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