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    GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Apologies for it being late.* It was a longer process this month.



    Here are approximate/estimated figures for GM in July:

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    1,000 takers for the XT6, not to shabby. Actually, kind of surprising me that the XT5 continues to do well. It is only down ~500 vs prior year when there was no XT4 or XT6, I expected more cannibalization.

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    If those numbers for Caddy and (not surprising) Buick car lines are real, ouch.

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    1,000 takers for the XT6, not to shabby. Actually, kind of surprising me that the XT5 continues to do well. It is only down ~500 vs prior year when there was no XT4 or XT6, I expected more cannibalization.
    I suspect a lot were put into dealers service loners, that is what happened last year when the XT4 came out, but cars were down almost 2,400 YOY.

    YOY Caddy sold 1,900 more units, YTD is only up 664 - not picking fights, just stating facts.
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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Yeah, the Caddy car numbers are frightening. It is funny to look at some of the numbers. You can really see what vehicles are picking up the lost fleet sales from cars. What is up with Malibu?
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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    I suspect a lot were put into dealers service loners, that is what happened last year when the XT4 came out, but cars were down almost 2,400 YOY.

    YOY Caddy sold 1,900 more units, YTD is only up 664 - not picking fights, just stating facts.
    Cars are a train wreck, but the CUV's/trucks look good. But yes, could be stocking up the on the dealer loaners.

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    GM cars are crashing faster than Ford, sheesh!
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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Cars are a train wreck, but the CUV's/trucks look good. But yes, could be stocking up the on the dealer loaners.
    GM Totals; YTD: (for comparison Ford)

    "Cars" -91K (-69K)
    "CUVs" +85K (-20K)
    "Trucks" -33K (+46K)


    Looking deeper; maybe the XT6 number is real and the XT5 sales number is fake?..................

    My Cadillac Dealer has 247 COURTESY TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES, and 282 NEW.

    Of the 247 loaners; 189 are XT5!? Those get posted as "retail sale" when they go into that program.

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme4x4 View Post
    Yeah, the Caddy car numbers are frightening. It is funny to look at some of the numbers. You can really see what vehicles are picking up the lost fleet sales from cars. What is up with Malibu?
    Aren't the ATS/CTS out of production? I'm guessing based upon the numbers the XTS is also.

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    My Cadillac Dealer has 247 COURTESY TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES, and 282 NEW.
    That is mind-boggling! Is that typical of large dealerships across brands?

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Hmm... the Cadillac Escalade increases are interesting. Hopefully Cadillac can build upon that for the next generation!

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    That is mind-boggling! Is that typical of large dealerships across brands?
    No, appears to be a new game GM is playing............ The first I saw it was last fall, they had a lot of the XT4's in the loaner program.

    They are essentially manipulating what month the "retail sale" is going to take place.

    Do they need that many loaners, they've got almost as many in loaner program as they do new!
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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    No, appears to be a new game GM is playing............ The first I saw it was last fall, they had a lot of the XT4's in the loaner program.

    They are essentially manipulating what month the "retail sale" is going to take place.

    Do they need that many loaners, they've got almost as many in loaner program as they do new!
    FCA has been pumping dealer auction full of brand new Ram's, Caravans, Pacificas,Durango's and Journeys. My BIL is a used auto dealer and showed me the staggering amount of brand new FCA inventory going through his local sale (about 150+ units). I don't know why they would do this, someone suggested excess inventory but I don't buy that as these are supposedly hot selling items. Perhaps these units are counted as a retail sale as soon as they cross the auction block? Also, you have to be a registered FCA franchise in order to buy these units.

    I think automakers can play strange games to try to win that sales race.

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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    GM Totals; YTD: (for comparison Ford)

    "Cars" -91K (-69K)
    "CUVs" +85K (-20K)
    "Trucks" -33K (+46K)


    Looking deeper; maybe the XT6 number is real and the XT5 sales number is fake?..................

    My Cadillac Dealer has 247 COURTESY TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES, and 282 NEW.

    Of the 247 loaners; 189 are XT5!? Those get posted as "retail sale" when they go into that program.

    https://www.cadillacofnovi.com/Vehic...ts?search=demo
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    Re: GM July 2019 Approximate Sales Figures

    As usual, the numbers for the Camaro are nauseatingly bad. Do you think there will be a 7th gen. after the 2024 hiatus? Not holding my breath, especially considering GM's actions lately. Hello 2002 all over again. Meet the new GM, same as the old GM. The Camaro is dead and it doesn't even know it yet.
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