GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

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    GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army
    2020-10-27
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    MILFORD, Mich. — GM Defense LLC, a subsidiary of General Motors, is celebrating the first delivery of the Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV) – a light and agile all-terrain troop carrier intended to transport a nine-Soldier infantry squad and their equipment – to the U.S. Army as part of a $214.3 million contract awarded in June. GM Defense will manufacture 649 ISVs and will support the production of up to 2,065 vehicles with additional authorization over eight years. This is the first major award and delivery for GM Defense since the subsidiary was reestablished by its parent company in 2017.

    The ISV is based off the award-winning Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 midsize truck architecture and leverages 90 percent proven commercial-off-the-shelf (COTS) parts, including Chevrolet Performance race components. The 5,000-pound ISV was uniquely engineered to fulfill military requirements and designed to provide rapid ground mobility. The expeditionary ISV is light enough to be sling loaded from a UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter and compact enough to fit inside a CH-47 Chinook helicopter for air transportability. The COTS parts, combined with the ISV’s innovative Rollover Protection System, will provide agile transportability on the battlefield to support mission success.
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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Good for GM and the warfighter.
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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    I sure hope GM paid more attention to detail and realize they can't be building this as they normally do incorporating parts they know for a fact are terribly designed and have 0 chance of ever holding up. Last thing we need is soldiers to get into this thing and have a check engine reduced power mode because they continue to still use the same lifters that collapse and blow out engines!

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Pretty cool! Presumably this is not meant to be in areas where there is the potential for being shot at as it offers zero protection.

    I wonder what else they are working on. The article says the 649 vehicles are part of the $214.3 million contract. Even at $100k apiece (and hopefully the military truck doesn't cost that much) that is only $64.9 million.

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Pretty cool! Presumably this is not meant to be in areas where there is the potential for being shot at as it offers zero protection.

    I wonder what else they are working on. The article says the 649 vehicles are part of the $214.3 million contract. Even at $100k apiece (and hopefully the military truck doesn't cost that much) that is only $64.9 million.
    Depends on the published requirement. Looks like a solid vehicle for up-fitting with various modifications for mission flexibility. The cost per unit is not given. There’s probably a lot of variables and options in the total program value that may or may not be fully funded and executed.
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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Pretty cool! Presumably this is not meant to be in areas where there is the potential for being shot at as it offers zero protection.

    I wonder what else they are working on. The article says the 649 vehicles are part of the $214.3 million contract. Even at $100k apiece (and hopefully the military truck doesn't cost that much) that is only $64.9 million.
    I believe there is usually a spare parts supply that accompanies the vehicle purchase in the contract. But still, the ZR2 is not even close to a $100k vehicle, and this thing is 90% off the shelf parts. The profit margins are enormous!!

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    I believe there is usually a spare parts supply that accompanies the vehicle purchase in the contract. But still, the ZR2 is not even close to a $100k vehicle, and this thing is 90% off the shelf parts. The profit margins are enormous!!
    GM has got to make a buck somehow and at those prices I hope the dash is soft to the touch.

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDiablo View Post
    I believe there is usually a spare parts supply that accompanies the vehicle purchase in the contract. But still, the ZR2 is not even close to a $100k vehicle, and this thing is 90% off the shelf parts. The profit margins are enormous!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Buttons View Post
    GM has got to make a buck somehow and at those prices I hope the dash is soft to the touch.
    I'm wondering if they are working on something else. They said the cost of the 649 trucks is part of the $214 million. Could be spare parts, or are they working on something else?????

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I sure hope GM paid more attention to detail and realize they can't be building this as they normally do incorporating parts they know for a fact are terribly designed and have 0 chance of ever holding up. Last thing we need is soldiers to get into this thing and have a check engine reduced power mode because they continue to still use the same lifters that collapse and blow out engines!

    I am not aware of any lifter issues with the little Duramax.
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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by jzchev28 View Post
    I want one!
    Buy a wrecked ZR2, a tube bender, and a welder and make it happen Cap'n!

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by ksss View Post
    I am not aware of any lifter issues with the little Duramax.
    Was more of an example of how gm allows bad design and part content to be reused for years knowing full well that it won't hold up!

    People lives will be depending on it working here, i know these things won't be going head first into fire fights but you never know what could pop up around the corner!

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I'm wondering if they are working on something else. They said the cost of the 649 trucks is part of the $214 million. Could be spare parts, or are they working on something else?????
    You really can't just divide the program cost by the number of trucks delivered. The up front development, spare parts, mechanic training, and future production all figure in too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDan View Post
    You really can't just divide the program cost by the number of trucks delivered. The up front development, spare parts, mechanic training, and future production all figure in too.
    You ruined my hoping they were working on something else that is cool

    Just kidding, that's why I ask questions when I know I don't have all the info!

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    Re: GM Defense Delivers First Infantry Squad Vehicle to U.S. Army

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDan View Post
    You really can't just divide the program cost by the number of trucks delivered. The up front development, spare parts, mechanic training, and future production all figure in too.
    So no money from this would be going to some black budget style project?

    I know you don't know...then again, maybe you do know (CIA/FBI/MIT spook) and are trying to lead us in another direction?
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