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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by 69gtsdart View Post
    RIGHT, Speaking of Ram, There is a 23 Combine MPG Ram coming in form of the HFE Model, ANYWAY. lol

    FCA available CUV's get better Mileage than any of the cars they had made *Shurg*.

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    Lets not act like in a emergency, Consumers wont resort to the used Market, rolls eyes. a Gas spike above 4.50 will not stop the purchase of SUV/CUV's it will just limit Driving. duh...
    Yea but only one truck gets great MPG (let's forget about the HFE model PLUS the diesel to come later this year). I mean, it's only ONE product. What was I thinking!!

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Yea but only one truck gets great MPG (let's forget about the HFE model PLUS the diesel to come later this year). I mean, it's only ONE product. What was I thinking!!
    This is my last word on this:

    U would agree that the RAM pick-Up is ONE TRUCK? U would agree that the entire FCA corporation should not be relying on ONE TRUCK to meet the people's needs for fuel efficiency right? I don't get why U are not understanding what I'm saying. Point blank.. FCA needs more than just the Ram and a 20 year old platform with 3 cars riding on it to survive.
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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    I just realized what plan B is if fuel prices spike. GM and Ford are not getting out of the car business worldwide, just in North America. The Cruze and Ford cars are still produced in China and Mexico and I bet will be imported to us until fuel prices go back down. If it becomes a permanent shift then production will eventually come back to NA.

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Jeep and Ram is where the discounts are. How long before this outfit is owned by PSA?
    You didn't read the fine print on the Opel/Vauxhall Deal? PSA is saving to buy the rest of the General. Or waiting until it is worthless.

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    This is my last word on this:

    U would agree that the RAM pick-Up is ONE TRUCK? U would agree that the entire FCA corporation should not be relying on ONE TRUCK to meet the people's needs for fuel efficiency right? I don't get why U are not understanding what I'm saying. Point blank.. FCA needs more than just the Ram and a 20 year old platform with 3 cars riding on it to survive.
    As GTS showed you, they have more than 3 cars available from a FE stand point. As far as truck FE though, the Ram crushes it in standard form. Expect the same from the new Durango.

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    How about its all of it... Your excuse is that the INTERIOR of the truck is the reason why the vehicle has lost sales to the Ram.. its a BS way of looking at things when there are obviously other factors that could better explain it. In this situation.. are U ABSOLUTELY TELLING US THAT HAVING THE NEW HDS IN THE LINE-UP WILL NOT ADD SALES?

    EVEN BETTER THOUGH:

    Give us all the top three reasons why the Silverado's sales are down in your opinion? Let us pick them a part... sans all the smart aleck responses U are well known for and get zero reprimand. I can't be the only one who notices this... Give us constructive solutions or reasons that aren't condescending and incendiary. And I'm asking this respectfully.. no names being called.. and no trolling. I'm asking U for a commentary that is informative.. since U are the GM INSIDER
    I'm not a truck buyer per se but Marginal safety scores would be enough to cross it off my list if I were shopping. For a brand new product, that's just down right embarrassing.

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    You didn't read the fine print on the Opel/Vauxhall Deal? PSA is saving to buy the rest of the General. Or waiting until it is worthless.
    Well, it would seem to me that PSA is going to wait a while to buy GM. I doubt the US government will allow it.

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Well, it would seem to me that PSA is going to wait a while to buy GM. I doubt the US government will allow it.
    You mean the Mexican Government. I am not sure Trump and Barra are Bed Buddies anymore.

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    You mean the Mexican Government. I am not sure Trump and Barra are Bed Buddies anymore.
    Presidents do not sit down and make decisions based on their emotions. There is something called Strategic National interest. The United States Government will not let some companies be taken over.

    Remember how the Honeywell deal went down a few years back?

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Presidents do not sit down and make decisions based on their emotions. There is something called Strategic National interest. The United States Government will not let some companies be taken over.

    Remember how the Honeywell deal went down a few years back?
    And the Boeing/Bombardier Deal went down also.

    Money Talks in Government. Only part is What American Part of GM if left for Trump to save?

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    And the Boeing/Bombardier Deal went down also.

    Money Talks in Government. Only part is What American Part of GM if left for Trump to save?
    I believe the thinking as explained by GWB back in 2009 was that normal BK would likely force GM into foreign hands and Ford would probably be forced into the same situation without GM to tag team and maintain industrial capacity here, therefore, the Feds were not about to let the law dictate national security interest..

    There is the odd case of Malaysia attempt to take over Boeing a while back or this thing that Europe is now doing due to Chinese espionage

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKBN1EG1AB

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    Re: FCA Reports Lower Q1 Results

    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    Are U touting 20/25/22 "standard" as the saving grace for an entire automaker's fuel economy concerns? Stop... just stop it

    Speaking from the mainstream vehicles only.. I can point to a bunch of small CUVs and mid-size CUVs, and even large CUVs that GM has that will continue to sell. They also currently have the Malibu and Regal.. the redundant, if Cruze is around, Sonic, and Spark.. not to mention the aforementioned Trax and Encore. For GODSAKE they have the Bolt. U coming in as if the Cruze was the only fuel efficient vehicle in their stable.

    If Tahoe and co, and Silvy/Sierra sales fall due to gas.. FCA is doomed.. and hell.. Ford too. as they have abandoned cars in general with the Taurus done, the Fusion on borrowed time.. and the Focus and Cmax, like the Cruze and Volt.. DONE. I believe the Fiesta is done as well. This de-mothballing might have to become a thing
    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    Both of U two are hilarious. One calling on the fuel economy of a single pick-up truck to save the day when speculators come calling, taxation comes asking and the other resorting to the used car market as a saving grace for a automaker that is the epitome of One Trick Ponies. Jesus Christ.. This is the stuff of dreams in my former capacity.. Luckily I can go half throttle in these arguments, one hand tied and a blatant no desire to fully commit to the argument.. And still come out of it showing the obvious naive fanboisn U two seem to have for FCA.

    Go Ram.. GO Chally. Go Jeep.. See the last one is the one I would have used as an argument of something right FCA does.. Discounting to move Rams as a secondary source of profits is a frail frail bridge to walk on though. I should go out this very day and buy a Camaro.. With the Black front just for the hell of it ��
    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    I pointed out exactly what U two were doing. Where is the go to if the fuel economy of 20/25/22 isn't enough? What is confusing to me is that if GM offered such a limited choice to families.. U'd be going thru the roof. If I go to FCA.. I have no compact under the mainstream brands.. no midsize.. only a coupe and 2 full size sedans. CUVs? Well at least they have Jeep. Hybrids.. EV? Nothing of note except the Pacifica. How do they get a pass? Because the interior of the Ram is slightly nicer in the upper trims.. or because they have a bigger backseat in the fullsize Chally over the Camaro? Yeah.. Its not worth the time when the deck is stacked cherry picking.

    ONE TRUCK. ONE TRUCK
    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    This is my last word on this:

    U would agree that the RAM pick-Up is ONE TRUCK? U would agree that the entire FCA corporation should not be relying on ONE TRUCK to meet the people's needs for fuel efficiency right? I don't get why U are not understanding what I'm saying. Point blank.. FCA needs more than just the Ram and a 20 year old platform with 3 cars riding on it to survive.
    You'll talk yourself into anything won't you?

    Would you be surprised if I told you both, the Ram and Silverado/Sierra make up roughly 25% of their respective companies sales?

    Forget about what GM has with regard to fuel efficient cars, they also got the highly profitable, very thirsty; Tahoe, Yukon, Escalade and Suburban.

    Do you honestly think FCA has more exposure to fuel prices than GM?

    Like I said................

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    I hate to break it to you, GM will be holding their hand right off the edge of the cliff, if gas spikes; Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, Silverado/Sierra sales will crater........... then what de-mothball Lordstown?
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