Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the works?!

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    Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the works?!

    GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well
    September 24, 2010
    RICK KRANZ

    With bankruptcy in the rearview mirror, General Motors Co. has the pedal to the metal, developing several new vehicle programs.

    In case you missed it, in the past seven weeks GM executives have revealed three new vehicles that have gotten the green light.

    In early August, then-CEO Ed Whitacre announced that a Cadillac luxury sedan is planned.

    The Cadillac will be a rear-drive, low-volume model. The media is reporting an expected six-figure price tag, possibly around $130,000 -- a Mercedes-Benz S-class, BMW 7-series competitor. The vehicle is aimed to continue Cadillac’s momentum in the United States, plus create buzz and credibility in Europe and China.

    Additionally, Whitacre said a minivan has been approved. No details were given.

    Sources tell me the minivan is about the size of the Chrysler Town & Country. This time GM has the right formula, they say. Past GM minivans were compromise vehicles, sized to appeal to North American and European buyers. They appealed to few buyers.

    Presumably, the minivan will be sold by Chevrolet and Buick.

    A few days before Whitacre’s comments, word came that GM is working on a new pickup being developed by the automaker’s subsidiary in Brazil.

    Karl Stracke, vice president of global vehicle engineering, told Automotive News’ editors and reporters that it is a mid-sized pickup. The vehicle will be sold outside of North America.

    MORE AT: http://www.autonews.com/article/2010...#ixzz10lDB0yqG
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    Re: Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the work

    Chevrolet...AND Buick?

    Hmmmm...something makes me doubt the Buick part of that.
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    Re: Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the work

    Sorry, but shouldn't the "mini-van" go to GMC and not Buick? Also, where's a replacement for the Savanna/Express, aren't their designs like 10+ years old (I believe the hardware under the hood has been updated)? I hope GM just blows us away with the amount of new product. Lord knows the past few auto shows have been snoozers for new stuff.

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    PLEASEEE make the buick version look like this!

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    Re: Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the work

    No, the Mini van should go to Buick first, then Chevy and then GMC. There is a huge market of well, no other way to say it, but "old people" and they love mini-vans for the easy entry and large door. Buick would be the brand of choice in whats left of GM for these buyers.

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    Re: Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the work

    Quote Originally Posted by Jkujo View Post
    Sorry, but shouldn't the "mini-van" go to GMC and not Buick? Also, where's a replacement for the Savanna/Express, aren't their designs like 10+ years old (I believe the hardware under the hood has been updated)? I hope GM just blows us away with the amount of new product. Lord knows the past few auto shows have been snoozers for new stuff.
    That's what I would think, but maybe they're cooking something up with that Business Concept for Buick. Who knows?

    And Savana/Express are super old, but I don't think anyone really cares. They're mostly workhorses and family haulers anyways.
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    Re: Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the work

    Minivan != cargo van.

    Interesting development. Hopefully they can make the Buick rather stylish. Too bad they're missing out on making it a Rendezvous-sized replacement, which would have been a great way to give the Buick more distinction, recapture the pretty good market the Rendezvous had, and hit the tweener between Encore and Enclave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt.w View Post
    Minivan != cargo van.

    Interesting development. Hopefully they can make the Buick rather stylish. Too bad they're missing out on making it a Rendezvous-sized replacement, which would have been a great way to give the Buick more distinction, recapture the pretty good market the Rendezvous had, and hit the tweener between Encore and Enclave.
    From what I've read something like that is in the works already. I would totally endorse it being called the Rendezvous. That was a good vehicle but it just sat on the vine and died because no one knew what to do with the stinkin' Aztek.

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    I like the Minivan info, GM needs to be back into that market. The fullsize vans are fine. That's a market segment where vehicles don't have to be re-designed every five minutes. It's based on things that REALLY matter like function and capability rather than trendy crap.
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    Re: Commentary: GM’s new-product pipeline is alive and well; minivan back in the work

    Quote Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
    Chevrolet...AND Buick?

    Hmmmm...something makes me doubt the Buick part of that.
    Yeah me too. Maybe Chevy and GMC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkujo View Post
    From what I've read something like that is in the works already. I would totally endorse it being called the Rendezvous. That was a good vehicle but it just sat on the vine and died because no one knew what to do with the stinkin' Aztek.
    What's in the works already is China-only and on the old U-body platform, or so I understand.

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    PLEASEEE make the buick version look like this!
    Now that is hot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XCR440SP View Post
    No, the Mini van should go to Buick first, then Chevy and then GMC. There is a huge market of well, no other way to say it, but "old people" and they love mini-vans for the easy entry and large door. Buick would be the brand of choice in whats left of GM for these buyers.
    Just two minivans will do Buick and Chevy. I choose Buick because it will be the rich man's minivan and can be more easily distinguishable with Chevy by making it very luxurious, more so than GMC. If it were a cargo minivan, then I would give GMC a whack at it.

    Cadillac is sport lux, so they should also sit this one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOLGMFAN View Post
    I like the Minivan info, GM needs to be back into that market. The fullsize vans are fine. That's a market segment where vehicles don't have to be re-designed every five minutes. It's based on things that REALLY matter like function and capability rather than trendy crap.
    I agree GM needs to have a minivan as well as a new truck below the full size 900s. However the GM's full size vans are adequate not fine. Compare the Savana/Express to the Mercedes full size van. GM needs to improve the full size van.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canuck View Post
    I agree GM needs to have a minivan as well as a new truck below the full size 900s. However the GM's full size vans are adequate not fine. Compare the Savana/Express to the Mercedes full size van. GM needs to improve the full size van.
    1. Did you really compare Chevy to MB? I'm a huge Chevy fan, but comparing them to MB, come on now.

    2. What MB van are you talking about?
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