California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

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    California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

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    November 18, 2019 02:19 PM
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    WASHINGTON -- California said on Monday it will halt all purchases of new vehicles for state government fleets from GM, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler and other automakers backing President Donald Trump in a battle to strip the state of authority to regulate tailpipe emissions.

    Between 2016 and 2018, California purchased $58.6 million in vehicles from General Motors, $55.8 million from Fiat Chrysler Automobiles $10.6 million from Toyota Motor Corp. and $9 million from Nissan Motor Co .
    Last month, GM, Toyota, Fiat Chrysler and members of the Global Automakers trade association backed the Trump administration's effort to bar California from setting tailpipe standards, which are more rigid than Washington's proposed national standards.

    The automakers declined or did not immediately comment on California's announced ban on purchases of their vehicles.
    Starting in January, the state will only buy from automakers that recognize California's legal authority to set emissions standards. Those automakers include Ford Motor Co., Honda Motor Co., BMW AG and Volkswagen Group, which struck a deal with California in July to follow revised state vehicle emissions standards.

    "Car makers that have chosen to be on the wrong side of history will be on the losing end of California’s buying power," California Gov. Gavin Newsom said in a statement.

    California purchased $69.2 million in vehicles from Ford over the three-year-period, $565,000 from Honda and none from the German automakers.

    The state also disclosed it will immediately no longer allow state agencies to buy sedans powered by an internal combustion engine, with exemptions for certain public safety vehicles.

    California's vehicle rules have been adopted by 13 other states.
    On Friday, California and 22 other U.S. states challenged the Trump administration's decision to revoke California's legal authority to set vehicle tailpipe emissions rules and require a rising number of zero emission vehicles.

    The move follows a separate lawsuit filed in September by the states against the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration seeking to undo a parallel determination.

    In August 2018, the Trump administration proposed freezing fuel efficiency requirements at 2020 levels through 2026, reversing planned 5 percent annual increases.

    The Trump administration’s final requirements are expected in the coming months and are set to modestly boost fuel efficiency versus the initial proposal, with several automakers anticipating annual increases of about 1.5 percent. That would be much less stringent than the Obama rules.



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    Not very good new for GM if this escalates to other States - California purchased $58.6 million in vehicles from General Motors. Ford will probably pick-up the GM & FCA sales.
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    All the more reason the Federal government needs to reign in California.

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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    Two can play that game... Trump should stop federal funds from going to states that don't comply with federal laws.
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    This is also the state that bans their employees from traveling to states with religious freedom laws. Think about that for a minute.
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    Well....how about stop buying new government vehicles for a few years anyways to save some cash.
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Two can play that game... Trump should stop federal funds from going to states that don't comply with federal laws.
    Three can play at that game...California will simply pass a law stating that all federal taxes are optional to California citizens...

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    Three can play at that game...California will simply pass a law stating that all federal taxes are optional to California citizens...

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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    They're worried about tailpipe emissions?
    Maybe they should worry about "The place is burning to the ground" emissions first...
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    Quote Originally Posted by GMOwner View Post
    Three can play at that game...California will simply pass a law stating that all federal taxes are optional to California citizens...

    California is a donor state.
    Except that's not legal or possible. It is legal, and it has been done before, where the Feds can withhold funding from states under certain circumstances. I'm actually surprised that Trump hasn't tried this already.
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    Quote Originally Posted by eaton53 View Post
    Maybe they should worry about "The place is burning to the ground" emissions first...
    They are... by offering their smiling citizens rolling blackouts on random occasion which is fabulous for charging all their mandated electric vehicles.
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    They are... by offering their smiling citizens rolling blackouts on random occasion which is fabulous for charging all their mandated electric vehicles.
    California's government might as well go all the way and submerge the state and its smiling citizens into the Pacific Ocean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    All the more reason the Federal government needs to reign in California.
    And all the more reason for California to secede from the USA and join the People's Republic of China as a new Special Administrative Region.
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    Re: California to stop buying GM, Toyota and FCA vehicles over emissions fight

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    All the more reason the Federal government needs to reign in California.
    Before they drive out more people who move to Texas and Florida and vote in the same gang of lunatics and young commies.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Two can play that game... Trump should stop federal funds from going to states that don't comply with federal laws.
    And arrest all officials who harbor fugitives from justice. Where are the US Marshals?

    Quote Originally Posted by GMOwner View Post
    Three can play at that game...California will simply pass a law stating that all federal taxes are optional to California citizens...

    California is a donor state.
    Doesn't work that way. Federal law Trumps state law. Oh, look, I made a funnee.

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    This is also the state that bans their employees from traveling to states with religious freedom laws. Think about that for a minute.
    Religious freedom laws? That's what some people call them?

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    Religious freedom laws? That's what some people call them?
    freedom to discriminate.

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