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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by megeebee View Post
    I thought too that Sigma was not AWD capable.
    I thought Sigma was too narrow. Correct me if I'm wrong, there were AWD Sigmas...Gen 1 SRX, STS, and Gen 2 CTS all had AWD options.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    So...are we all in agreement that the CT4 is sized segment-wise w/ the C/3 and not the A/1?
    No because it is not priced like those. Entry level buyers are going to look at what they get for their money. When they see the CT4-V priced the same as A Class, they are going to compare those two. The 3 Series will start at $40k, and thie CT4 will start about $32-34k, you know, like the A Class.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Another comparision...
    ...................................CT4...........G iulia
    Length........................187.2".......182.6"
    Width.........................71.9"........73.7 "
    Height.........................56.8".........56.1 "

    Width is the big thing and hallelujah... the CT4 is a BIG winner.
    It is just 1.2" wider than my Cruze, but the Cruze (like the ATS) does not have power folding mirrors.
    So it is effectively narrower than my Cruze. This is great news!!
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert1969 View Post
    No because it is not priced like those. Entry level buyers are going to look at what they get for their money. When they see the CT4-V priced the same as A Class, they are going to compare those two. The 3 Series will start at $40k, and thie CT4 will start about $32-34k, you know, like the A Class.
    Given recent GM behavior, it might be $34-36K with $2K “discount” seconds after launch. I hope not.

    But low 30s would be great for the CT4, even I could afford one...with a little help from GM Card...

    I’m fine with a A/A3 size vehicle. (If I wasn’t I’d look at C/A4/3/CT5 sized cars.) I sat in an A class at the NYAS, fine for me.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by BahamaTodd View Post
    CT4 and CT5 are pretty much identical in size to the ATS and CTS. GM's claim now is based on interior volume and lower pricing they compete in segments one step lower.

    Which is why I expect the CT4/5 V+, V-squared, V-Max or whatever they call them are not going to be at the power levels the previous Vs were at.
    With the release of the higher performance models in a regular time frame the blackwing won’t be the only likely V8 option. The next gen NA V8 will have already debuted in the C8 with just over 500 hp/tq. Also, Caddy has a chance to offer a track purpose CT6-V as well that can continue where the CTS-V left off.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    I have a friend whose SS was just totaled in an accident. I feel bad for him. He likes the CTS-V. I wonder if he'll be sold on a CT5-V?
    I'm definitely not recommending he buys anything Cadillac or GM.
    You're gonna tell a guy not to buy a CTS-V?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert1969 View Post
    No because it is not priced like those. Entry level buyers are going to look at what they get for their money. When they see the CT4-V priced the same as A Class, they are going to compare those two. The 3 Series will start at $40k, and the CT4 will start about $32-34k, you know, like the A Class.
    I will not buy any car that costs over $30K.
    If the V has a MSRP under $60K (very likely) it should reach a palatable price point at the same age as my wife's car.
    It was 3.5 years old with 32K miles on it when we got it for $27K. Its MSRP was about $10K higher.

    A 2016 ATS-V runs in the high $30K's, MSRP is similar to the XTS Platinum. All signs point to mid-$20K CT4-Vs.

    That is an age and price sweet spot for me when it comes to buying pre-owned luxury cars.
    Not too old, not too expensive.

    A 4-year old CPO CT4-V at a similar price or maybe even a little less would be great.
    That coincides just about perfectly with the next time I'll be in the market.

    Do not care about back seats or trunks. I have an XTS for that.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by JBsZ06 View Post
    That weird rear styling probably accounts for the increased length..a tenth of an increase is nothing as is the complaints of this article..

    Now if the article lambasted the weird overwrought styling....that we could get on board with..

    I hope this car sells for cadillac as they need unit sales...

    I just wouldnt touch it as i find it somewhat deformed looking.

    Maybe weird and possibly ugly sells...

    They must know what they are doing.

    Wow, good catch. Believe it or not, I actually thought it looked very sharp especially in the dark blue. I was actually foolishly thinking of getting a regular CT4 when they come out.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    So... GM neglected to fix the biggest complaint about the ATS? Is anyone actually in charge at GM these days?

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    This company is ****ing clueless lmao.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by DequindreToo View Post
    So... GM neglected to fix the biggest complaint about the ATS? Is anyone actually in charge at GM these days?
    At the same price point the ATS was at GM has decided to give you a bigger car. It’s called CT5. Problem solved. Nothing more to see here. GM was quite clear when they said no direct replacement for the ATS or CTS.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by DequindreToo View Post
    So... GM neglected to fix the biggest complaint about the ATS? Is anyone actually in charge at GM these days?
    No...I guess they kinda fixed the rear seat space of the ATS by now claiming it to be in the segment below where it used to be. Some of you actually bought it. lol.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    No...I guess they kinda fixed the rear seat space of the ATS by now claiming it to be in the segment below where it used to be. Some of you actually bought it. lol.
    Some of us don't care about it.
    I look at it this way... it's a hell of a lot bigger than the back seat in my Eclipse Spyder and Miata.

    No one ever sits in the back seat of the Cruze.
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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I don't think the normal rear seat dimensions are the issue so much. While yes, they are smaller than the competition, they are workable (unless you are 6' 6" or 300 lbs). The real problem is your feet, they must be contorted to get them in and once in you are locked into place.
    So, you buy the new CT4 / V if your friends have no feet.................. just like you buy a new Camaro if your friends have no legs.

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme4x4 View Post
    So, you buy the new CT4 / V if your friends have no feet.................. just like you buy a new Camaro if your friends have no legs.

    Choices are good.
    What to buy if your friends have no brains?

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    Re: 2020 Cadillac CT4-V Is Larger Outside, Smaller Inside Than ATS

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    What to buy if your friends have no brains?
    Then u definitely buy the 320hp CT4-V.
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