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  • 11-20-2012, 04:54 PM
    F14CRAZY

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekeeper View Post
    I really missed my 1974 GP for a while. Huge space even with the bucket seats and that 455 purrrrrred under the hood.

    The only thing that sucked on that car was the carburetor!!! Got around 9 MPG, yep, only 9! couldn't wring anymore out of it. Along with the glass pacs and 4 barrell carb, it really smoked emm.

    Only missed it for a short while, my '81 Camaro made sure of that.
    Wow I get 15-16 doing 65-70 mph in my '74 LeSabre w/ 455

    Quote Originally Posted by sonjaab View Post
    Still plenty of these so-called "inferior" 80s GM A body cars running around here in the snow/salt/rust belt
    NY..................Plenty more in the south and west US.

    FUNNY.........I don't see ANY of those "superior" 80s toyota/honda/etc. running around..............

    So sad this site has turned into a GM hater paradise.
    well they did make those A bodies until 1996...The classic car that isn't
  • 11-20-2012, 02:53 PM
    sonjaab

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    Still plenty of these so-called "inferior" 80s GM A body cars running around here in the snow/salt/rust belt
    NY..................Plenty more in the south and west US.

    FUNNY.........I don't see ANY of those "superior" 80s toyota/honda/etc. running around..............

    So sad this site has turned into a GM hater paradise.
  • 11-20-2012, 07:29 AM
    bonecrrusher

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    You know - as a gear head - this car would make for a decent pro-touring car - and it would be fairly cheap.

    It has a G-body frame under it - so all the kits from DSE/Hotchkis/etc would all bolt up to it.

    Engine - swap out that crap v8 for a LS block.

    The only thing that worries me about this car is trim, floor pans, patch panels that you would need...

    As its a Grand Prix - I doubt the aftermarket is reproducing any parts on it compared to say a Malibu, Regal, Grand National, Monte Carlo...
  • 11-19-2012, 05:16 PM
    fastball

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88Fiero View Post
    They are off on the engine. It was the 3.1V8 I dont recall the SJ engine. That was a great package with full instrumentation.
    Looks like you made a typo. But they're correct in this ad, only the 231 V6 and 265 V8 were available. The 301 was not. The 305 was added to the options list in 1983.
  • 11-19-2012, 02:48 PM
    Stéphane Dumas

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    I checked the clip and in the firsts seconds when it show some drawings, there one drawing of a Grand Prix proposal who was a Riviera lookalike.
  • 11-19-2012, 02:12 PM
    Timekeeper

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    I really missed my 1974 GP for a while. Huge space even with the bucket seats and that 455 purrrrrred under the hood.

    The only thing that sucked on that car was the carburetor!!! Got around 9 MPG, yep, only 9! couldn't wring anymore out of it. Along with the glass pacs and 4 barrell carb, it really smoked emm.

    Only missed it for a short while, my '81 Camaro made sure of that.
  • 11-19-2012, 01:53 PM
    camaro_freak

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    Yes - a three speed transmission - nothing says the future than a 3-speed! lol
  • 11-19-2012, 12:48 PM
    Bravada

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    Oh God, this was almost like it's own bad-taste, dragged-out parody. It would have been funny were it not for all the clues that they've meant that in earnest. It is a joke on so many levels, starting with the fact that they are talking of a PONTIAC, for God's sake.

    It's so smooth, elegant and contemporary that it could have just as well passed for a Chevrolet, Oldsmobile or Buick. Or, actually, isn't it one?
  • 11-19-2012, 12:18 PM
    KingElvis

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    Quote Originally Posted by skylark68 View Post
    It's kind of strange that in the late '70s and '80s (minus the Firebird/Trans Am), Pontiac was becoming more and more entry level luxury oriented, and Buick was becoming more performance oriented. It's also interesting that the fastest Trans Am of that era was Buick powered.
    I often wonder what would have happened with Pontiac had they retained their own 301 V8 and employed ESC and high compression - and/or developed the turbo V8. Olds had its own V8, Buick had the turbo V6 to play with and of course Chevy had the 305 - but in using Chevy V8s and the Buick V6 in the Trans Ams of that era, Pontiac lost a big part of its unique identity.
  • 11-19-2012, 12:13 PM
    KingElvis

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    We're tooling on GM of this era, but in 1980 they still had like 46% market share - they must've been doing something right. The G/P, with it's pointy nose and high rear deck and long overhangs evokes the the '71 Charger in profile.
  • 11-19-2012, 11:45 AM
    88Fiero

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    They are off on the engine. It was the 3.1V8 I dont recall the SJ engine. That was a great package with full instrumentation.
  • 11-19-2012, 11:36 AM
    88Fiero

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    I like the different paint combos that were available. We had some great colors back then. NOT 6 different shades of black and gray we now have. The GP had for a year to real wire wheels, not covers. Sold a few GPs.
  • 11-19-2012, 09:33 AM
    Rick_VT

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    YES, this is the one!!

    What exactly is he referring to?
  • 11-19-2012, 09:22 AM
    skylark68

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    It's kind of strange that in the late '70s and '80s (minus the Firebird/Trans Am), Pontiac was becoming more and more entry level luxury oriented, and Buick was becoming more performance oriented. It's also interesting that the fastest Trans Am of that era was Buick powered.
  • 11-19-2012, 09:09 AM
    ponchoman49

    Re: 1981 Pontiac Grand Prix -YES, this is the one!

    1981 and 82 had to be the lowest point ever for both the Grand Prix and G-bodies in general save perhaps the Regal Sport coupe which actually made 175 HP in turbo 3.8 form. Yes the new aero body was stylish and attractive and the interior could actually be optioned with buckets seats, floor shifter, gauge package with tachometer and even the old Sport wheel that was std on the previous SJ sport model. You could also have rally IV wheels and even snow flake alloys which were quite stylish at the time. The main problem was the second oil crisis and the government and there demands for better mileage and lower emissions. Performance was out, mileage was in and the top gas fired engine for this car was a Pontiac sourced 4.3 liter 265 V8 that made 119 HP! This engine was coupled to GM's light duty 200 metric transmission and an economy oriented 2.29:1 rear gear ratio which helped achieve the 27 highway MPG rating. The standard engine was Buick's 110 HP 3.8 V6 which was rated for 30 highway MPG and the burly oil smoker 5.7 105 HP diesel was also offered. Gone were the sporty SJ model with it's W72 equipped 301 4BBL and 2.93:1 gears and dual exhaust and the rumor that Pontiac's 301 turbo would be offered as an option. Also introduced for 81 was the C3 computerized emission system and GM's 200R4 overdrive transmission in the full size line.

    That second oil crisis really changed the direction of the 80's and the automotive landscape forever more.

    With that said I owned an 81 white Grand Prix LJ coupe with the 4.3 V8 and actually have fond memories of that car as a 20 something year old back in 1993. It had a mint light green interior that was very attractive and comfortable, rode very well and was very quiet. It also handled quite well and despite the absurdly low HP figure would easily break the rear tires loose and got up to speed in a reasonable manor. Compared to the rusted out old Dodge Dart Slant sixes and Ford Fairmonts with Pinto 4 bangers that fellow friends had at the time my GP was quite the nice ride.
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