Most Desperate GM Product

[zete]

Originally Posted by mgescuro

There are "desperate" cars at nearly every brand.

Buick -- Lucerne, Lacrosse
Cadillac -- DTS, STS
Chevy -- Impala, Cobalt, Colorado
GMC -- Canyon
Pontiac -- G5, G6, Torrent
Saab -- 9-3, 9-5, 9-7

Yeah, what he said.

Originally Posted by nsap

I vote for the Cobalt without any doubt. The Cobalt is by no means a bad car (it is underrated!), but with high gas prices...GM could afford to have a new Cobalt out right now.

FYI: The all-new "world" Cobalt will appear mid-2009 as a 2010 model. GM initially planned a mid-cycle enhancement for the 2009 MY (to go with the new SS), but it was canceled as GM pushed up the all-new 2010 model.

And that's good news. I hadn't heard that. So they've pulled the new Cobalt forward just in time to take advantage of the price of fuel. GM seems to get it. Let's hope it's a trend.

I guess we'll see it in Detroit come January, then.

[ksr]

Originally Posted by DoomsDave

• STS - Here's our winner! Car is hopeless, as is. Interior is classic old-school GM mess. V8 is lame duck engine compared to the DI V6. Exterior is dated. Replacement is years away. For Cadiliac's flagship sedan, it's sad compared to the CTS. GM will sell dozens of these until the Zeta-based replacement shows up, sadly.

I like the STS, but you make some good points about it.

It may be just me, but I've been seeing a lot of them on the road recently. Big incentives?

[ksr]

Originally Posted by Butz

All of them, but mostly the STS.. Not even a replacement is in sight!

How far away is the car that supposed to replace both STS and DTS?

[91 s-10baja]

a high mileage commuter. period.

[t-rex]

I'd say the Chevy Equinox. Probably more than any other GM product, it's miserably failing to live up to its sales potential. A fresh new set of clothes, competent powertrain, and resized to CR-V/RAV4 dimensions, and Equinox sales would probably double.

Or replace it with an updated Captiva...

[kovich14]

The results of the poll reflect my thoughts exactly. In the face of rocketing gas prices, both the Cobalt/G5 and Colorado/Canyon will be instrumental in bringing about increased sales. Small cars will continue to be huge sellers and GM needs to show that they actually care about this segment to get a piece of the action. The current Cobalt is a great start, but it is time to forge on aggressively. The Cobalt should be priority with a strong replacement for the current model with the Colorado pulling in a close second. Some people just flat need a pickup and a strong, efficient Colorado could be just the ticket.

[MaxLegroom]

I didn't vote for the Cobalt because we know that it will be replaced soon. I considered the Impala in need of a replacement, or at least a major re-working. What that re-working should include is the latest powertrain, meaning the 3.6 and six speed, and a wheelbase stretch to increase rear legroom. It hardly has any more than the Malibu, and whenever I try sitting behind myself in one, my knees are always in the back of the front seat. Other than that, the changes the car needs are minor.

[ctsmo]

saab 9-5 without a doubt.

[osv_alero]

It was a hard pick between the Cobalt and the Colorado. With gas prices the way the are, each product has an excellent opportunity to make the turn around like the new Malibu.

Both products have been left to rot for WAY to long.

[likearock00]

Originally Posted by rumble bee

I say the colorado. The colorado xtreme is just like the s10 xtreme. Cheap tinny trucks that make you think you have a powerful motor under the hood when you don't. Hell, the 5 cylinder don't even make 300 horsepower! My HEMI gets 345 horse power and can smoke any colorado out there. Maybe GM needs to correct this problem before they slap an xtreme sticker on the side and call it a spor truck because it is not at the same level Rumble Bee, by any means

Welcome Troll. Your truck has 3 extra cylinders....I'd expect you to beat a 5. I look forward to more of your bright posts.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Aveo yet. I agree, the Cobalt could stand for a redesign. I am happy to see the XFE edition out though- hopefully that'll keep sales going. I'd like to see the Aveo get a fresh start- something that is actually appealing to Americans.

[jfnz24]

Cobalt...imagine a new "Malibu-like" introduction with a new design Cobalt. You think Malibu's are selling well, with $4 gas likely here to stay, a new fuel sipper with looks will get LOTS of attention.

[63GrandSport001]

I seriously feel that GM has much more to gain with a new Cobalt over a new anything else right now with a ton of sells to pick up.

[drew770]

Cobalt has a greater need for gutting but the sad Colorado is a pretty close second. What's sad is GM is a truck expert and the Colorado is not a good representive of that fact.

Is the Colorado a turd? No, its just not very competitive.

Now the STS is just plain sad. For a semi-Flagship vehicle it is subpar. It has a tired interior, dated exterior and drives like an 80s buick.
The CTS can't shoulder all of Caddy's sales and goodwill alone. The future STS or DTS or Whatever the name will be should be a true Flagship with no shortcuts.

[GMC-70]

I voted for the Canyon/Colorado. It's too bad GM couldnt keep the S-10 alive with continous improvements and have a small/mid/full size truck line becuase right now I bet S10 sales would be enjoying some good numbers!

[M_RABID]

Originally Posted by montrealvue

The Uplander and Montana SV6. Their death can't come soon enough and the Lambdas are not an appropriate substitution.

Yes they are.

The Colorado/Canyon needs to be replaced asap, but the LaCrosse should be GM's top priority.
The Invicta concept scheduled for Feb production can't come soon enough. This new vehicle has the most potential for improving GMs sales figures IMO.