How Do You Rate The New GM's First 100 Days? - Page 2

RamJet502 · 10-19-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon says

(1) they seem to be rebuilding the company from the top down, great luxury (Cadillac CTS) and niche (Chevrolet Corvette) cars, but not so hot mainstream vehicles.

Examples?

I will agree on the current Impala, Malibu Hybrid, and Colorado, simply not good enough but everything else remains competitive (or superior - Camaro and Silverado 1500

) and there are a lot of potential hits coming up.

Taglane · 10-19-2009, 05:26 PM

I say B, because we need new people in the GM fold. Same people running GM- they probably have a different way of thinking now (for the better), but it's the same people. We need some fresh young people to run this company, IMO.

RamJet502 · 10-19-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Taglane

We need some fresh young people to run this company, IMO.

I would agree with that, I think it would really help.

OLDSCHOOLGMFAN · 10-19-2009, 06:44 PM

An F-.

Taglane · 10-19-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOLGMFAN

An F-.

Why am I not surprised...

Simon says · 10-19-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RamJet502

Examples?

I will agree on the current Impala, Malibu Hybrid, and Colorado, simply not good enough but everything else remains competitive (or superior - Camaro and Silverado 1500

) and there are a lot of potential hits coming up.

You just gave me three examples right there. Also the upcoming Cruze has gotten a lukewarm reception at best and replacements for the Impala and Malibu are way to war in the horizon to count.

Just look at the thread about the online chat with the guy that heads Chevy, I didn't participate but reading it was heartbreaking. Very few people here fell for the corporate mumbo-jumbo.

RamJet502 · 10-19-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon says

Just look at the thread about the online chat with the guy that heads Chevy, I didn't participate but reading it was heartbreaking. Very few people here fell for the corporate mumbo-jumbo.

I gave them a "C" because there is still a ton of work to be done updating and refining their products. I am very pleased with the new Equinox though, hopefully a sign of great things to come.

Simon says · 10-19-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RamJet502

I gave them a "C" because there is still a ton of work to be done updating and refining their products. I am very pleased with the new Equinox though, hopefully a sign of great things to come.

In that we agree. Hopefully.

A.J. · 10-19-2009, 09:20 PM

B minus. In my local grading system, that's an 85 out of 100.

With outside help and a push from the government, the new GM has been pulled back onto their feet. The only problem is that one false move can send them back into oblivion.

Again, like others, I stress globalization. Especially with GM's Holden brand.

I also stress streamlining of products. Not exactly "rushing" production, but really getting a flow moving, such as redesigning all or most cars on one platform on the same year. Like...a new Malibu, Impala, Regal, and Lacrosse that are all redesigned on the same year or close to it (M/R one year, I/L the next).

SierraGS · 10-19-2009, 11:08 PM

For the first 100 days I give them a "B" due to the huge number of issues that needed to be addressed in a very short time, so the first 100 days has been more of a "mid-term" exam than a "final", the real "make or break" test will be at the 1 year mark.

Hopefully there will be another poll at the 200 day mark and we can evaluate the progress, and since there is a long way to go the grade could go down.

FoMoCo man · 10-20-2009, 11:52 AM

"B" are family just bought a new Gm ... good gosh what a improvment over the GM's back in the 90's lol

Montana Mike · 10-20-2009, 12:20 PM

I give them a C, I love GM and would"nt buy anything else but I think they can do better.

Mike

Exploder · 10-20-2009, 12:27 PM

C.

When I think of things like the XTS, upcoming GMC Vibe, utter lack of dedication to using the Zeta platform, the SRX, or lets just face it the whole Cadillac brand, maybe even the LaCrosse, lack of globality and probably a few others I cannot think of now, I feel like GM is going nowhere.

But then I look at the Volt, CTS-V, Corvette, Camaro, and Equinox, vehicles for which I have nearly no complaints about, as well as the ATS and perhaps the Alpha platform, and I feel hope.

It's really about 50/50 for me.

mgescuro · 10-20-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2002 Caddy

Sounds like some sort of "free love" Hippie school

YEaaaa.... it was....
But they had an awesome Bio sciences program, which I was interested in.

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A.J. GMI Design Contest Official Join Date: Aug 2006 Drives: 2007 Buick Lucerne CXL, 2005 Ford Freestyle SEL Posts: 1,210	Re: How Do You Rate The New GM's First 100 Days? B minus. In my local grading system, that's an 85 out of 100. With outside help and a push from the government, the new GM has been pulled back onto their feet. The only problem is that one false move can send them back into oblivion. Again, like others, I stress globalization. Especially with GM's Holden brand. I also stress streamlining of products. Not exactly "rushing" production, but really getting a flow moving, such as redesigning all or most cars on one platform on the same year. Like...a new Malibu, Impala, Regal, and Lacrosse that are all redesigned on the same year or close to it (M/R one year, I/L the next). __________________ A note to all design contest participants - if I pound you with penalties or point out that you can't enter one of your designs, please do not think that this is a personal bash on you as a designer. I am merely enforcing the rules that I have set down.

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SierraGS 4.6 Liter Northstar V8 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SoCal Drives: '04 Sierra '02 Regal GS "05 PT Cruiser Posts: 1,543	Re: How Do You Rate The New GM's First 100 Days? For the first 100 days I give them a "B" due to the huge number of issues that needed to be addressed in a very short time, so the first 100 days has been more of a "mid-term" exam than a "final", the real "make or break" test will be at the 1 year mark. Hopefully there will be another poll at the 200 day mark and we can evaluate the progress, and since there is a long way to go the grade could go down.

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10-20-2009, 11:52 AM	#26 (permalink)
FoMoCo man 1.4 Liter Turbocharged ECOTEC Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta/Marietta, GA Drives: 96 Mazda 626 ( daily driver) 2007 Ford Mustang GT, Posts: 91	Re: How Do You Rate The New GM's First 100 Days? "B" are family just bought a new Gm ... good gosh what a improvment over the GM's back in the 90's lol __________________ Ford/Gm for life! Future Muscle Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS/RS or 2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 help me decide!!! Future Sedan: 2010 Ford Fusion or 2010 Chevy Malibu or 2009 BMW 335xi

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Montana Mike 1.4 Liter Turbocharged ECOTEC Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 76	Re: How Do You Rate The New GM's First 100 Days? I give them a C, I love GM and would"nt buy anything else but I think they can do better. Mike

10-20-2009, 12:27 PM	#28 (permalink)
Exploder 3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,069	Re: How Do You Rate The New GM's First 100 Days? C. When I think of things like the XTS, upcoming GMC Vibe, utter lack of dedication to using the Zeta platform, the SRX, or lets just face it the whole Cadillac brand, maybe even the LaCrosse, lack of globality and probably a few others I cannot think of now, I feel like GM is going nowhere. But then I look at the Volt, CTS-V, Corvette, Camaro, and Equinox, vehicles for which I have nearly no complaints about, as well as the ATS and perhaps the Alpha platform, and I feel hope. It's really about 50/50 for me. __________________ My blog Last edited by Exploder : 10-20-2009 at 12:43 PM.

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