Is GM Right Ruling Out The Holden Commodore Returning To The US As A Chevrolet?

[JoeT]

Now that GM has officially ruled out the the Holden Commodore returning to the US as a Chevrolet, GMInsideNews now gives you the chance to have your say with our latest Headline Poll

Is GM right ruling out the Holden Commodore returning to the US as a Chevrolet?

Official: "We Simply Cannot Make A Business Case" For A Chevrolet G8, Says Lutz

[2002 Caddy]

I voted YES, but only becuase it shouldn't be a Chevy... it should have been retained as a Buick.

[neshapop]

Originally Posted by 2002 Caddy

I voted YES, but only becuase it shouldn't be a Chevy... it should have been retained as a Buick.

I agree with you, that would add more spice into current Buick offer and remove a stigma of old people's car. They can also charge Buick price for entry luxury performance sedan.

[TuffG929]

The current gen should die as a pontiac....maybe they could bring the next one over as a chevy though.

[johnnyvettes]

bad move on GMs part great car we need it as a Chevy or a Buick . but the times are bad and the Government is calling the shots . bad move GM bad move

[davidlane]

If GM doesn't know how to do this and make a profit on the car they shouldn't do it. There are companies that appear to be able to market this type of vehicle and turn a profit at it. Unfortunately, apparently neither the "old" or "new", really the same IMO, GM knows how to do this. So why do it and lose money?

[GM-Joe]

GM needs to make money on every car they sell, except for the Volt. If they let Lutz do as he pleases, we may end up with the G8, Solstice, Sky, Caprice, H2, 93, 95, 91, ect..., but too small amount of people want them. Most people just want something that is cute, cheap, socially acceptable, and dependable; GM must do those, before they make the vehicles enthusiasts want.

But I will add that I do expect GM to have a global Commodore the next time is gets remade and one should be available for assembly in N.A.

[EJD1984]

This could be a glimmer of hope

Holden engineering lighter and more fuel-efficient RWD Zeta platform

General Motors’ RWD Zeta platform was pioneered in Australia for the locally built Holden Commodore sedan but right from the start Detroit had global intentions for the design. Today, Zeta running gear can be found in models sold in China, South Korea, the UK, and in North America, but GM has much more ambitious plans for the platform, going right up until 2020.

Back in March we reported that the platform would be modified to be smaller and more fuel-efficient, and that the first car to ride on this ‘Zeta II’ design would be the next-generation Holden Commodore due in 2013. A new report published by GoAuto confirms that Holden is developing a lighter and more highly-evolved version of the three-year old Zeta platform.

Link to Article

Could this be what Bob Lutz was referring to? - "And we have a tremendous RWD team in Australia that gave us the beloved G8, a team that we will tap into at some point again in the future for its expertise and sheet metal"

[vette61]

This car would have helped change chevys image. it would have put chevy back where it should be as a brand that has something for everyone. buick are you kidding me? with pontiac out of the way,gm should concentrate on making chevy what it was in the 60's. now that there will be no caprice,my next car will be a bimmer. i was ready to trade in my 05 325xi for a caprice. now gm has lost me.

[steve333]

Originally Posted by vette61

This car would have helped change chevys image. it would have put chevy back where it should be as a brand that has something for everyone. buick are you kidding me? with pontiac out of the way,gm should concentrate on making chevy what it was in the 60's. now that there will be no caprice,my next car will be a bimmer. i was ready to trade in my 05 325xi for a caprice. now gm has lost me.

Why don't you just get a CTS?

[Dr. Show-Me]

GM DIDN'T rule out bringing the car to America. They simply stated that under the current conditions they could not justify it.
So when conditions change, they can justify it. When they figure out the business case, which will require production in North America, they will bring the car out, after the mce and getting the tooling in place in Oshawa.
Don't get your shorts all bunched up over this!

[Suziebob]

Like I said, the only way this car would have sold in any appreciable numbers is if every fanboy who whines on the internet went out and bought 2 of them.

I know, it's a great car. But it wasn't designed with the American market in mind or it would be built here and we wouldn't have to worry about shipping and exchange rates.

[skylark68]

Originally Posted by steve333

Why don't you just get a CTS?

Good point. Why buy an ugly Bangled BMW?

[2002 Caddy]

Originally Posted by Dr. Show-Me

GM DIDN'T rule out bringing the car to America. They simply stated that under the current conditions they could not justify it.
So when conditions change, they can justify it. When they figure out the business case, which will require production in North America, they will bring the car out, after the mce and getting the tooling in place in Oshawa.
Don't get your shorts all bunched up over this!

Agreed, but when you look a what the "correct" conditions are your underwear comes out all knotted up... Conditions needed for a future Buick (or Chevy) G8 are
1) Comparatively weak Aussie Dollar. Sadly there is little evidence that the Aussie dollar will weaken any time soon. The Australian economy has been hit with many of the same problems as the US economy... but the land of Aus has one big Ace in the hole... The are a huge exporter of Agriculture and natural resources, much of it to China... As China's economy grows so does the strength of the Aussie dollar... Long story short, with the US printing money like it is going out of style and with Australia selling iron, coal and natural gas to Japan, China, and South Korea... Do not expect the Aussie dollar to collapse any time soon.
2) CAFE requirements. GM still is being propped up by BOF trucks and now V8 Camaros... GM if GM is going to hit CAFE targets it needs a "nice" small car that they can sell with out putting a ton of cash on the hood. AKA the cruze... Sadly if the Cruze was already here and selling well we would have "CAFE room" for a Z28 and/or a Buick/Chevy G8... Or another way for every G8 they sell at "break even" numbers is one less Tahoe that they could sell at a huge profit.
3) Gas prices... Ya they continue to come down... but for how long... and pending and expected legislation will probably push gas prices back up... maybe not to the "OMG" levels of last spring... But probably to levels that will have trucks and V8 cars sitting on the lots.

By the way look at that doom and gloom list the other way... And that list describes the PERFECT conditions for a VOLT launch... Just maybe, GM will actually "nail the market" and launch a car in to an environment that demands that car.

[vcs2600]

Voted YES because GM needs to shut up about possible products that are 2-3 years away, and start selling cars right now.