UAW local members strike at GM Lansing plant

[lineworker]

Originally Posted by goblue1999

So it was too much to ask to work under the current contract while negotiations continue. It was too rough on you collecting your PhD wages with your high-school drop-out skills? You make no sense, and get no sympathy. Enjoy that $200 / week.

Watch the paper for ads advertising replacements for your job.

General Motors ordered all employees out,not the UAW.I have to report to the union hall tonight ,I will get specifics then.

[Uzzy]

I'm going to calmly send a letter to the unions in hopes of reasoning with them and their membership...



Ya know what? Nevermind, it's pointless and impossible. It's like trying to reason with a shark in the middle of the ocean, while you're treading water and you just cut your knee.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by CadiEldo67

So what GM factories are producing cars these days?

The ones in Mexico.

[sprchev1]

Originally Posted by lineworker

General Motors ordered all employees out,not the UAW.I have to report to the union hall tonight ,I will get specifics then.

Please provide any information fit to print when you get a chance. There are many of us curious about the situation. I will reserve my ire for the UAW or GM once the facts are available.

[88Fiero]

Seeing as a lot of my customers are UAW members I do not bash them. I try to understand both sides. What I see is both sides are guilty in dragging this out. I also think the head of the UAW really need to take some economic classes. I just finished taking several for my BS in BA , and I now see things a little different. I understand the need to have companies employing people to bolster the states economy! Here in Michigan we do not need to lose any more employers and have more people unemployed. It affects EVERYONE in the state. So strinking plants in Michigan doesnt make sense to me. We are in a hole and unfortunately some organizations do not see it. This county is in a recession. Now is not the time for both sides to be stubborn. We need to cooperate and get things turned around. If not this country will some day be a "third world" county and we all will be poor. So we all need to think things over. Both sides need to think of the State and the country. CEO's are overpaid, they need to think of good all their workers. Employees need to realize that our problems are not the company but other countries that import their junk into this country at low rates. People in those countries do not have the standard of living that we have. WE in this country are blessed. We need to be thankful and stop complaining. The enemy is not companies or manufacturers that we work for , but other countries that do not pratice fair importation. We need to get some intelligence in washington! They need to pass laws and regulations that favor american companies, that favor american workers! Instead they kiss the other countries butts. So uaw members vote in people that favor our country not others. CEO's, stop being so damned greedy. How much money do you really need to live on? Both sides need to think of their fellow americans and not themselves! Off my soap box.

[hunchman]

Originally Posted by plane

Do not be haring anything within 10 miles of me. Make it 100.
I want no part of that.



Um. Yes it is. Or you would have quoted me.
I've actually been quite conciliatory towards the union.
Interestingly, rather than explain any plausible reason why the union is striking,
you lash out and start haring things that simply don't exist.



Something's got to give if GM isn't selling vehicles and Toyota is.
Oh wait, I remember who I'm conversing with.
Those fundamental rules of economics simply do not apply to you.
Nevermind.



Excellent point.
The scarcity of gold and oil is simply a myth perpetuated by the upper echelons of high society.



Yes. That sounds like a winning strategy.

In conclusion, congratulations, you have remained 100% consistent with UAW communication rules.

Don't explain your position, just insult, slander, take a shot at the man and use the Jimmy Hoffa treatment if all else fails.

It was supposed to be hearing. I don't dig back through trash threads like this and dig up quotes sorry if i got the wrong guy but it sounded too familiar

I got rid of my 03 cavalier(made in lordstown) and replaced it with a canadian made corolla(cambridge ontario) did you know the line rats at cambridge make more than those at lordtown?

What's your definition of scarce? Did gold just become scarce this year? Have you heard the latest news about oil finds right here in north america?
I read that the recent hike in oil prices was because of "fears" people will drive more this summer. Last fall oil rose on "fears" it was going to be a colder than normal winter, it wasn't. Then the price had risen again on "fears" there was civil unrest in nigeria. It went up again because BP spotted a leak in a pipeline. If you get the idea here the price hike was NEVER blamed on scarcity, dwindling supplies yes and a whole bunch of "fears"
Anything else? don't be mad

[gardnet1]

Ford was so, so, so much smarter for getting the uaw to just agreed to a percentage of 2nd tier jobs and not by position.

What the heck was the national contract for if all these locals won't tow the line?

Next time just negotiate locally and outsource Ghetto finger!

[hunchman]

Originally Posted by TruckMan

Who is feeding these guys information? It's never their fault, is it. I wish I was entitled to demand more because my management was making more money than me. Then I wouldn't have had to go to college and work hard, long hours for the money I earn.

They take when times are good, but refuse to give when times are bad. I can't wait till the unions are gone so these people can see how the rest of the country survives. Ignorance really is bliss.

Ummm ya I guess that bonus pay they gave to rick when his company posted their biggest loss in history was ok, sorry. Don't be sour that you spent so much time in college and at work, that's not the UAW,s fault. You won't be happy until everyone is as miserable as you.

[Old Dood]

Here is the Lansing State Jounal's Link: http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/a...WS01/304170001

When there are updates you can simply check in.

[NfamousZ24]

The strike will be over by the end of the week. Just like AAM will be over by the end of the week. I am guessing they will announce the tenetive agreement with AAM at the UAW Rally in Detroit.

[M_RABID]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

The ones in Mexico.

And the LaCrosse, in Canada.

Yay.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by M_RABID

And the LaCrosse, in Canada.

Yay.

And that's only until the CAW strikes this fall.

[lineworker]

I just got back from the picket line,from what I was told The local thought they had a tenative agreement on wed. night when they left to go home and they came back in on thursday morning GM ordered work to be stopped and the UAW team to leave.

[MadTruckMan]

im almost positive that this strike is over the core-noncore job issues. just about every plant had upper level (detroit) management come into their plant sometime in the last few months and just pick jobs and call them non-core. at our plant (ft wayne assembly) there was NO NEGOTIATION on which jobs were declared core and non-core. detroit management came in, decreed it so, and it was done. and now, this is the result of this type of 'negotiation'. i understand that there needs to be, and has been decided at the national level, some changes to how jobs are classified. but, jobs like, for instance, motor assembly, in my humble opinion is not a non-core job. but at our plant, that has been deemed a non core job now, making 14 an hour in the future. also, any assembly of the IP has now been deemed a non-core job. so contrary to popular belief, its not just janitors and fork truck drivers that are having their job classifications changed. it is basically any job that GM has deemed that could be outsourced is now non-core. at our plant, that was roughly 550 jobs out of around 2200. remind you, with NO NEGOTIATION. and before i end this post, i would like to say shame on our national leadership for not settling this issue in the national negotiations. gettlefinger et.al. have now created a huge mess for local negotiators to try and figure out without much warning as to how gm management would handle this. its a mess, and its probably gonna get worse before it gets better for the time being....thanks for hearing me out!

[JackDye]

Originally Posted by lineworker

I just got back from the picket line,from what I was told The local thought they had a tenative agreement on wed. night when they left to go home and they came back in on thursday morning GM ordered work to be stopped and the UAW team to leave.

If they ordered people to leave, how is it a strike?