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Old 04-17-2008, 12:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: UAW local members strike at GM Lansing plant

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GM plants have to abide by the National agreement and they also work out a local agreement that is more specific to the jobs in that plant. I believe that they have been unable to work out the local agreement yet. They are working without one and they finally decided to strike. I have no idea what the specific issues are in the local agreement are that they can't agree on.
They can't agree on overtime rules, job classification, and general housekeeping stuff. Checkout MLive.com they have a full article.
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Let the bashing begin!!!! These are my favorite threads...and if you all wait a couple more weeks the United Steel Workers Local 2-921 is set to strike against Comprehensive Logistics on May first. This will shut down Lansing Grand River, and all the fat, lazy, uneducated UAW workers there will get paid unemployment benefits.
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Economy in the toilet.
Domestic manufacturers reeling from decades of share loss and lack of profitability.
Auto sales down 10% this year.
GM invests $$$ in a new plant in rust-belt Michigan.

Yeah, let's strike now.
We want to earn the burning enmity of every living non-UAW member in North America.
Way to rally the rest of America around your cause....while you try and figure out why so many people 'hate' you.....
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I am going to the union hall shortly,I will explain why we went on strike later. GM has been dragging their heels on a local contract for 7 months now. Sadly someone has to draw a line in the sand.
You'll be drawing a lot of lines in the sand once GM closes shops altogether in the states.
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So you want GM to go out of business?
That's the way unions think. It's either their way or NOBODIES WAY! Well, I just want GM to stop dancing with the UAW and start moving production out of the country. I am tired of being a dealer employee and not getting our rare hot products because some wrench turner wants $60 and hour. Listen, I know it sounds harsh but GM needs to draw THEIR line in the sand and start moving production out out the country bit by bit until they bring the UAW to it's knees. This way, the rest of GM's non-union employees can work towards prosperity TOGETHER and let capitalism work for them (which is completely opposite of the UAW's socialist agenda).
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I've been haring for 2 (TWO) years now here how the economy is in the toilet
Do not be haring anything within 10 miles of me. Make it 100.
I want no part of that.

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and it's not the first time you have made this statement either.
Um. Yes it is. Or you would have quoted me.
I've actually been quite conciliatory towards the union.
Interestingly, rather than explain any plausible reason why the union is striking,
you lash out and start haring things that simply don't exist.

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I didn't see the memo that states you have to take it up the keester because the economy is in the toilet.
Something's got to give if GM isn't selling vehicles and Toyota is.
Oh wait, I remember who I'm conversing with.
Those fundamental rules of economics simply do not apply to you.
Nevermind.

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I wonder if the faultering economy was planned so the rich fat cows could drive down wages even more. They sure are having fun with gold and oil now . GM and many other big corporations have been laying on the doom and gloom story quite a bit while their board members and top management have been reaping it in.
Excellent point.
The scarcity of gold and oil is simply a myth perpetuated by the upper echelons of high society.

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I think it's an ideal time for the UAW to bring the ship to its knees so that maybe management will look in the mirror. I doubt it and I figure the ship will sink and all the muppets will blame the UAW.
Yes. That sounds like a winning strategy.

In conclusion, congratulations, you have remained 100% consistent with UAW communication rules.

Don't explain your position, just insult, slander, take a shot at the man and use the Jimmy Hoffa treatment if all else fails.
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Let the bashing begin!!!!
Ready! Set! GO! Let's see, what can we make up in our heads today? Here, I'll do it for you.

Union workers...
...are out to destroy America
...are communists
...are lazy
...are un-educated
...are retarded?
...are fat
...are felons
...have no social skills
...make poopy in their pants
...make $100K a year doing 'nothing'
...dont care about anyone or anything
...sponsor terrorism
...want to destroy the company

should I go on?

Seriously, you guys that bash unions have no idea what you're talking about. You don't even know what the strike is about and you're already jumping to conclusions. How about we wait to hear what each side has to say then you can go back to calling guys like me fat, retarded, lazy and greedy.
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Ready! Set! GO! Let's see, what can we make up in our heads today? Here, I'll do it for you.

Union workers...
...are out to destroy America
...are communists
...are lazy
...are un-educated
...are retarded?
...are fat
...are felons
...have no social skills
...make poopy in their pants
...make $100K a year doing 'nothing'
...dont care about anyone or anything
...sponsor terrorism
...want to destroy the company

should I go on?

Seriously, you guys that bash unions have no idea what you're talking about. You don't even know what the strike is about and you're already jumping to conclusions. How about we wait to hear what each side has to say then you can go back to calling guys like me fat, retarded, lazy and greedy.
Actions speak louder than word at this point. Just LOOK at what the unions have done and are still doing to this countries manufacturing industry.
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Around my cause?

My cause at the moment would be poor reading comprehension by other GMI regulars.

Care to try again?
He is talking about the unions.
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Seriously, you guys that bash unions have no idea what you're talking about. You don't even know what the strike is about and you're already jumping to conclusions. How about we wait to hear what each side has to say then you can go back to calling guys like me fat, retarded, lazy and greedy.
And not one word from you that justifies or explains why the Lansing folks are on strike.

Way to win the communications war with GM.
You're generating oodles of empathy for the strikers right now. Oodles.
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He is talking about the unions.
Ok, then my cause would be my own poor reading comprehension.

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I am going to the union hall shortly,I will explain why we went on strike later. GM has been dragging their heels on a local contract for 7 months now. Sadly someone has to draw a line in the sand.
So it was too much to ask to work under the current contract while negotiations continue. It was too rough on you collecting your PhD wages with your high-school drop-out skills? You make no sense, and get no sympathy. Enjoy that $200 / week.

Watch the paper for ads advertising replacements for your job.
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Wow. So the UAW complains because GM doesn't design competitive products, which is why the company and thus the union is hurting. Then when GM does have a class leading product, they strike.
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You'll be drawing a lot of lines in the sand once GM closes shops altogether in the states.
That's really all they have to do.....and then where will the UAW be?
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I've been haring for 2 (TWO) years now here how the economy is in the toilet and it's not the first time you have made this statement either. I didn't see the memo that states you have to take it up the keester because the economy is in the toilet. I wonder if the faultering economy was planned so the rich fat cows could drive down wages even more. They sure are having fun with gold and oil now . GM and many other big corporations have been laying on the doom and gloom story quite a bit while their board members and top management have been reaping it in. I think it's an ideal time for the UAW to bring the ship to its knees so that maybe management will look in the mirror. I doubt it and I figure the ship will sink and all the muppets will blame the UAW.
Who is feeding these guys information? It's never their fault, is it. I wish I was entitled to demand more because my management was making more money than me. Then I wouldn't have had to go to college and work hard, long hours for the money I earn.

They take when times are good, but refuse to give when times are bad. I can't wait till the unions are gone so these people can see how the rest of the country survives. Ignorance really is bliss.
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