GM rebuffs union call to keep plant alive

[fp115]

Originally Posted by SwampFoxZ71

I was thinking strike. If that's the case, that's wholly worse than what I was thinking. If they do worse than that, any sympathy I had will be gone. Ridiculous.

Part of it started today, but the media will surely get to it Monday. Its not a strike (yet).

[bigtime]

Why doesn't the union lease the plant and build a car that gets 80+mpg like we know can be built and tell GM to pound sand? Oh yeah, GM and the union are on the same team.
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[BlackSilverado]

Originally Posted by EldoFan

What do you think would be better for GM? Honor an agreement with their unions and continue to build vehicles the market is/consumers are shunning in droves (despite their 'cash cow' status).......or actually facing up to the reality of the market and building cars that people want and more importantly, will buy??

What would be better is to explore other avenues to shift production of smaller CUV's or expand car plant into the truck rather then idle the plant.

[Tony_the_Tiger]

- The bottom line is that the company did not live up to their end of the agreement -

The union would have never signed this POS agreement if they knew the company was going to close the truck plant -

- Now they have the TV media, radio and the press and the government involved -

- The only way out of this public relations nightmare is to either keep your word - or - offer a fair buyout the same as the one they got at the Windsor plant -

[fp115]

Originally Posted by Tony_the_Tiger

- The bottom line is that the company did not live up to their end of the agreement -

The union would have never signed this POS agreement if they knew the company was going to close the truck plant -

- Now they have the TV media, radio and the press and the government involved -

- The only way out of this public relations nightmare is to either keep your word - or - offer a fair buyout the same as the one they got at the Windsor plant -

Posting the exact same thing again I see? Well here is what I said in the other thread.

The contract did say it would keep the plant open till late 2009 (when they would release the new model truck). The same contract did also state that they plant will remain open so long as there is market demand. As blunt as it may sound, nothing was played wrong on GM's part and they did live up to the agreement.

Media was only covering it mostly on the first day or two, but now haven't been paying much attention to it, since first the blockade was an attempt to prove a point, but now its growing to something which is way more out of hand. The last media coverage I saw on the blockade was the reporter talking about all the illegal things CAW is doing with this blockade and would only take GM to go to court and reep up additional settlements. The government is involved, that is no brainer. THe Canadian and Ontaro government must do something in order to keep the auto industry alive. If more money is not placed into these programs, you will see more trouble in the near future. For GM to possibly get a portion of the $250m towards expansion in Oshawa is great news.

[Vladimir1978]

Originally Posted by fp115

Posting the exact same thing again I see? Well here is what I said in the other thread.

Thank you for continuing to prove you're nothing more than a lackey with no idea of how the public is perceiving the actions of your company at present time. Wishing for it to 'go away' won't make it happen. GM screwed the pooch on this one and the only way to get out of it is to give the plant another vehicle or renegotiate the terms of what they agreed to 3 weeks ago.

[Pruettfan]

Auto workers crack me up. They all think they are entitled to a level of job security that is unheard of in the rest of the world. These workers should take a look at the paper every once in a while. Airlines are laying off thousands of employees, banks and mortgage companies are shutting down operations and laying off employees but they think they should be given life time security.

I read that truck sales are down between 35-35% and are not predicted to return to previous levels. Auto workers need to deal with reality and understand that it is not management's fault, it is just the real world. When you have a HS education and get a factory job making 70k with great benefits straight out of HS you don't expose yourself to the realities of the world and as a result you just dont see the world the way it really is for the rest of us. I have many family members who have only known the UAW world and believe they were promised and owed a life of job security. If you disagree then explain to me why most of the UAW members in the job bank show up to the idle plant and sit rather than go to school or move on with their lives.