GM to pay up to $200M to help end American Axle strike

[97CamaroSS]

Originally Posted by GM-10

Did you see more money from the seat of your black helicopter???

That has been the best reply so far! I'm so tired of hearing about those UAW Bozos, and their junk cluttering up our GM forums. We know they are of no positive use to American automakers, we know its pushing companies overseas, so we may as well just have some fun with it, because it is a dying parasite! Lets talk about ZR-1 performance, or something like that. The replies are all the same when it comes to the (hopefully soon to be defunct) UAW.

[YupYupYup]

Go ahead and spend your $200 million to pay of the mob...Then, in a year or so, ship all the production to Mexico to recoup your investment. The mob will never learn...

[b4z]

"GM has $23.9B."

Let's see.
If GM loses $2B a quarter, then it's gone in 3years.
Sounds far fetched but it could happen.

Nobody likes to talk about how many Billions in debt they are.

[silvergoat2k6]

I'm sure we'll hear about this $200 million again...in a few months when GM posts their 2nd quarter loss...this will be yet another of their "one-time charges".

GM has got to stop being the "rich uncle" that everyone runs to when they need money.

[NfamousZ24]

Originally Posted by 97CamaroSS

That has been the best reply so far! I'm so tired of hearing about those UAW Bozos, and their junk cluttering up our GM forums. We know they are of no positive use to American automakers, we know its pushing companies overseas, so we may as well just have some fun with it, because it is a dying parasite! Lets talk about ZR-1 performance, or something like that. The replies are all the same when it comes to the (hopefully soon to be defunct) UAW.

Fact: I don't work for the UAW.

Fact: GM has done a lot of accounting changes and had to go back on previous finacial reports:

False: I fly in black helicopters.

Fact: This is GM Inside News. Any news that effects GM is reported and usually has a section that it goes in. Either it is Union, Laws, Enviroment, Energy, Economy, Design, ect.... Should and will be talked about on this forum and it should be.

Fact: UAW membership has gone down. Then again so has the total amount of Automitve jobs in America.


You could be so hopeful with the demise of the Unions, But I see no end in sight for the use and need of Unions. There will always be Unions if not the UAW then there will be some other union to take their place. Maybe even the union I work in.

[mike's 01ws6]

Originally Posted by rozz

Oh, please noooo...don't do it GM! GM can still get more part from the American Axle's Mexico plant, right?

Obviously not

[mike's 01ws6]

Originally Posted by nadepalma

Got to love those UAW boys - even after they strike at some of GM's plants after their contracts were ratified last year, they indirectly cost GM MORE MONEY by striking an important parts supplier.

Unreal.

I wonder if anyone at the UAW wonders if the strike carrying on as long as it has will end with GM moving many future contracts away from American Axle to Dana or other axle suppliers? Or if AmAxle will simply move future production overseas to avoid such a problem?

Really gets to me.

??? you dont know what you are talking about.

[YupYupYup]

Fact: UAW membership has gone down. Then again so has the total amount of Automitve jobs in America.

It is not because of the loss of automotive jobs why union membership has declined drastically...Union membership has declined in all industries. Only around 12% of the workforce is unionized (I do not think that includes government workers) and it is dropping fast.

[YupYupYup]

How many union bashers are sitting around at work on the computer posting about how worthless and lazy other people are when they should be doing their job!

How many of us are sitting at home STILL working because we are salaried or own our own businesses...? No cushy overtime pay here...We just might be on GMI to take a break before we are back at work again.

Just because someone disagrees with unions, the majority of Americans do if you look at the polls (and see the huge decline in membership/ support), doesn't mean they are "union bashers.". Sorry, but union leadership has a habit of trying to silence dissenters or coerce workers into only voting for their choice of candidate. Luckily on GMI we get our say without union strong-arm tactics...And some don't like it. Great part about America -- freedom of speech...No matter who tries to quash it.

[NfamousZ24]

Originally Posted by mike's 01ws6

??? you dont know what you are talking about.

Most of them don't have a clue. They might think they do, But they don't.

If anything GM will move axles in house. Especially when you take into account the new Non Core job titels. Plus it is GMS to bring them in house.

[slowinthefastlane]

I hope that they're getting a larger chunk of ownership in the company for their $200M. At least that would be something.

[steverino]

What was the point in GM divesting these divisions (Delphi, GMAC) and plants (American Axle) in the first place if they're going to keep haunting GM for years on end

[MOGI]

Originally Posted by tgagneguam

For better or for worse, I was thinking the same thing when I read the headlines earlier in the day.

Now remember, there was no money a year ago to properly advertise the crop of new Saturns. Right. I didn't believe it then, nor do I believe it now. It's all about priorities; consistently developing and marketing brand identity is not a priority. They say it is, but management's actions speak otherwise.

So....what exactly are you saying??

[tkrelston]

Originally Posted by jae1987

No way GM just built that place and it's state of the art. They also have one of the most efficent output ratios around.

How much was spent to rebuild the OKC plant after it was wiped out in 1999? Where is it now?

[5.3Avalanche]

Originally Posted by NfamousZ24

Most of them don't have a clue. They might think they do, But they don't.

If anything GM will move axles in house. Especially when you take into account the new Non Core job titels. Plus it is GMS to bring them in house.

I'm not trying to be naive, but please, enlighten those of us that are not members of the union why we don't understand, because from a complete business aspect, the bargaining the UAW is doing is not doing anything good for their future fortune. I know you previously mentioned that you are not part of the union, but you must have friends/family in the union otherwise you would not take such a strong position for it. Again, no disrespect in my question, I'm just wondering if there are any factors that I'm missing that would cause me to not understand.
I used to be a part of the engineering team for a BFGoodrich plant in Ontario. There was a strike by the steelworkers union which shut the plant down (the workers at our plant were part of the steelworkers union). A couple years later, Michelin execs (Michelin owns BFG) closed down our plant and one of the deciding factors was that our unionized workforce was non-compliant in previous endeavors such as the strike a couple years back. It's an instance like this that causes unions to have a bad taste in my mouth because I lost my job because of it.