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GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
DAYTON, Ohio -- The Ohio Department of Development says General Motors Corp. has declined a tax credit and grant package worth more than $56 million to keep open its SUV plant in the Dayton suburb of Moraine. Department spokeswoman Kelly Schlissberg said Thursday the state is disappointed and will continue to look for alternate uses for the plant, which employs about 2,400 workers. The automaker has said it plans to close the plant by 2010 or sooner because of a customer shift to smaller vehicles The proposed assistance announced Wednesday consisted of a $54 million job retention tax credit and a $2 million "rapid outreach" grant. Link: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...808290421/1148
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
Thats sad, my dad has a Trailblazer and my mom has a Rainier and they are both great cars! Guess they won't be able to replace them
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
If Ohio really does want to keep Moraine open just offer GM to pay for the retooling so the plant can make cars or unibody crossovers instead of BOF SUV's.
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
If there isn't a business case to keep the plant open, I doubt $56m will change many minds. Its a drop in the bucket honestly.
However, Nice try Ohio. |
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
How about offering them enough that it would be a good idea to bring back some production from Mexico?
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
Damn. Maybe an alternative will come up.
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
That's what I was thinking. If GM wants to get more small cars to the market faster, then re-tool a plant that has been slowed down.
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
It's a shame, I feel for the people of that entire area because things are going to get tough. But the State of Ohio should have not openned there are in love with Honda, though Honda has brought jobs, those jobs are only replacing already better paying UAW jobs. Additionally, those Honda's are not all American Assembled, I believe that some 20% are still imported from Japan, but I could be wrong. I do know that except for the Hyandai Sonata, the CRV has the lowest content of N.A. parts of any vehicle assembled in N.A. and sold in the U.S; I believe it is 17% for the CRV and 10% for the Sonata, up from roughly 2.5% for the Sonata. Thus, not supporting companies of your nation and supporting foreign based countries is going to give a competitive advantage to the foreign firms and result in what is beginning to happen in Moraine. It is sad, but politics are politics.
Also, this affected some 6,000 Delphi employees in Dayton, which are now out of work, other suppliers in the Moraine area, and finished off the Delphi plant in Columbus.
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
I didn't think GM would bite on this deal. It didn't make much sense given their current situation. GM shouldn't sign up to anything requiring mandatory wages or minimum numbers of employees. GM needs to cut all the fat it can...
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
Problem is Moraine wasn't fat. The union there has been more flexible and more willing to work with GM then the UAW has been. The only thing preventing GM from keeping Moraine open is the cost to switch the plant from a body on frame plant to a unibody plant.
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Re: GM declines Ohio's $56M offer to keep plant open
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I don't want to leave GM with the next round of buyouts, But then again I don't want to move. Also GM needs $562m before they might take a look. IMO 56.2m really isn't that much.
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