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Old 05-19-2008, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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American Axle Strike OVER

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/19/e...costs-gm-218m/

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The UAW strike at American Axle has ground on for three months, but an agreement with the union was reached on Friday. General Motors had pledged $200 million dollars to help get things rolling again after being forced to idle plants. The action has reportedly cost GM $800 million...
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah...finally...GM won't even get a discount on parts!
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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GM should start looking for another source for axles in the future. These guys are clearly on dope.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: American Axle Strike OVER

$800,000,000? Drop in the bucket.
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they should drop em at the first chance they get
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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GM should start looking for another source for axles in the future. These guys are clearly on dope.
Yea obviously on dope..... Your boss comes up to you, "Hey, from today forward your going to make half the salary you did previously."

I'm sure most people would say, "Thanks boss, my family, my mortgage company among others, really appreciate the generosity, boy I'm glad I work here. No one in their right mind could have any issue with a gesture as such.
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Re: American Axle Strike OVER

Well they didn't have much of a choice and were crazy to strike
anyhoo!
What did they gain? Months of lost wages, ended up with 1/2 pay
anyhoo, a few free dollars courtesy of GM, One plant going bye-bye
and a bunch of them out of a job!

In the process they helped AA bolster its plants production in mexico
and elsewhere along with other outsourcing practices
where they pay pennies per hour thus paving the way for more AA
plants in the US and Canada to close by the time the next contract
comes up...........................

Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well then, why dont you take a %50 pay cut at your job and see how you tune changes when your scrimping to put food on the table, nevermind the bills.
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Well they didn't have much of a choice and were crazy to strike
anyhoo!
What did they gain? Months of lost wages, ended up with 1/2 pay
anyhoo, a few free dollars courtesy of GM, One plant going bye-bye
and a bunch of them out of a job!

In the process they helped AA bolster its plants production in mexico
and elsewhere along with other outsourcing practices
where they pay pennies per hour thus paving the way for more AA
plants in the US and Canada to close by the time the next contract
comes up...........................

Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face !!!!!!!!!!!!
What did UAW accomplished. AAM wanted them to drop to $14 an hour with no buyouts or buydowns offered. After the stike they are going to be making $4 more an hour than AAM origiannly wanted. Best of all they will get a $105,000 buydown, Or if they want get a $140,000 buyout.

Yes for UAW the stike was well worth it, Even when they didn't have leverage because of slumping Truck and SUV sales. If the jobs were going to get shipped off anyways, Atleast they got something out of it.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well then, why dont you take a %50 pay cut at your job and see how you tune changes when your scrimping to put food on the table, nevermind the bills.
Pay me 2-3 times the market rate for my work for a few decades and I'll gladly take a 50% pay cut in the end.
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Yea obviously on dope..... Your boss comes up to you, "Hey, from today forward your going to make half the salary you did previously."

I'm sure most people would say, "Thanks boss, my family, my mortgage company among others, really appreciate the generosity, boy I'm glad I work here. No one in their right mind could have any issue with a gesture as such.
And the answer to that comment is the same as always...I'll tell my boss to **** his hat and I'll go get another job, with another company making a comparable wage (or maybe even more) using the skill set that I have. The majority of the UAW members cannot do that since they get paid way above their market worth, so nuts to them.
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Why isn't this story on the news ticker?
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Why isn't this story on the news ticker?
I don't know why I didn't hear about it until today when I went looking for info. The tentative deal was reached Friday. The voting began yesterday. I had to go looking for the story on Google.com to find something.
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Well then, why dont you take a %50 pay cut at your job and see how you tune changes when your scrimping to put food on the table, nevermind the bills.
Many of us have, and many of us have degrees, you know, edumacashun beyond the 12th grade.

If Bubba thought his $27/hr job was going to be a permanent situation, he was sorely mistaken.

The days of Cletus and Jimbo making huge money the day they are finished with high school are over. The economy is down, I was working 20 hours a week after school and on weekends making $29.25/hr, and that company has gone out of business and we all lost our jobs. We were not given a choice of a lower salary, it was just "the company is going out of business next month, if anyone needs a reference see the manager". However, if we were offered $18/hr or no job, I think every one of us would have taken it. People who were 50 years old lost jobs that month, but we didn't go on strike either.

So now I make next to nothing detailing cars, and work 100 times harder for a boss who is a complete tool. Luckily I am still in university, so while it makes things tougher, I'm not in the same situation as someone who had to support a family and mortgage payment.

So in conclusion, if given the choice between a reasonable salary for your education level and no job, it's probably better to make the reasonable salary than stand in the unemployment line.

Everyone deserves a reasonable wage, but $27/hr plus massive benefits out of high school is not what anyone but you guys think is reasonable.
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Yea obviously on dope..... Your boss comes up to you, "Hey, from today forward your going to make half the salary you did previously."

I'm sure most people would say, "Thanks boss, my family, my mortgage company among others, really appreciate the generosity, boy I'm glad I work here. No one in their right mind could have any issue with a gesture as such.
Nah, your boss isn't going to say that. He is going to come up to you in the VERY near future an say "Hey, from today forward you are not going to have a job because we are moving production out of the country. You could of helped us out with a pay cut, but now you have nothing. No health benefits, income, future retirement contributions.....nothing"

See, that is the only TRUE alternative to a pay cut. The UAW-CAW needs to come back to 2008 and leave the 1950's behind. There is NO WAY GM will be able to sustain the luxurious pay and benefit packages of the UAW-CAW in the near future. The writing is on the wall and within a decade (probably less) unions are going to see the biggest axe that American unionized labor has EVER seen in their entire history.
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