American Axle Makes New Offer to UAW

[mjd1001]

American Axle Makes New Offer to UAW

DETROIT - Striking United Auto Workers union members are considering a new contract offer from American Axle and Manufacturing Holdings Inc. as bargaining continued through the weekend aimed at ending a seven-week strike over company demands for deep pay cuts.

In a statement released later Sunday, American Axle said the UAW rejected its request that a federal mediator assist in the negotiations.

"AAM had hoped that the involvement of an impartial third party at the bargaining table could assist both sides. ... AAM was disappointed in the UAW's decision," the statement said.

full article here: http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,1930582.story

[Uzzy]

Of course the union won't allow outside mediation. The mediators would tell them to take the deal and be grateful you have jobs.

[burningsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

Of course the union won't allow outside mediation. The mediators would tell them to take the deal and be grateful you have jobs.

truth.

[gr8tfulfred]

could you just laydown and accept a 50 percent pay cut without a fight?

[Shawn Wuan]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

Of course the union won't allow outside mediation. The mediators would tell them to take the deal and be grateful you have jobs.

Yeah, I expcected you to say something to that effect. I don't know what the big sticking point is but I think A/A should offer something like a buy down like Delphi. I do understand they have to cut cost to compete with the compatition but I still say I don't like the ideal of companies getting rich off of the backs of poor people. At $14 they can't afford to buy the trucks there making the parts for.

[Shawn Wuan]

Originally Posted by gr8tfulfred

could you just laydown and accept a 50 percent pay cut without a fight?

Thats what I have been saying, but maybe it's more YES MEN in this world than I thought.

[Uzzy]

Originally Posted by gr8tfulfred

could you just laydown and accept a 50 percent pay cut without a fight?

That is always the argument that your type poses to me and my answe is always the same. No, I would go get another job. But If I can't find another job where I utilize the same skill set, for comparable pay, then I'd say I'm getting paid too much. I would advise the American Axle, or any UAW member to do the same. Guess what, they can't. I on the other hand could. My only issue is I might not be able to find it in my area, since the job market here is rather dismal. I'd rather not move, but I moght be forced to, just to find any job in my field.

[Member17739]

Originally Posted by Uzzy

That is always the argument that your type poses to me and my answe is always the same. No, I would go get another job. But If I can't find another job where I utilize the same skill set, for comparable pay, then I'd say I'm getting paid too much. I would advise the American Axle, or any UAW member to do the same. Guess what, they can't. I on the other hand could. My only issue is I might not be able to find it in my area, since the job market here is rather dismal. I'd rather not move, but I moght be forced to, just to find any job in my field.

Good point, if you can't go out there and get the same job for similar pay it usually means you are paid too much.

[hotrod1949]

There hasn't been enough bargaining yet to bring in a mediator, both parties need to sit at the table for a while before calling in a third party.

[johnny smallblock]

Originally Posted by gr8tfulfred

could you just laydown and accept a 50 percent pay cut without a fight?

Originally Posted by Uzzy

No, I would go get another job. But If I can't find another job where I utilize the same skill set, for comparable pay, then I'd say I'm getting paid too much.

Some people instead choose to fight to protect the jobs that they and their fellow workers have, instead of leaving their jobs, giving up their seniority, possibly uprooting their families, and moving away from the community they grew up in.

Just because you would cut and run, don't blame others for staying the course to ensure victory.

[Member17739]

Originally Posted by johnny smallblock

Some people instead choose to fight to protect the jobs that they and their fellow workers have, instead of leaving their jobs, giving up their seniority, possibly uprooting their families, and moving away from the community they grew up in.

Just because you would cut and run, don't blame others for staying the course to ensure victory.

You protect your job by proving to the company you are worth the money you get. Based on that it will be impossible for the workers to win.

[kylepo]

hmmmm take a pay cut or dont and just force the company to send my job to mexico and then I become jobless I think its a pretty simple decision to make. but hey who am I?

[jkennedy293]

I hope this thing ends soon. It is starting to really affect production. In 2 weeks, GM won't be able to produce any trucks. Can you imagine going to a Chevy lot and not see a Tahoe or Silverado?

[Shawn Wuan]

Sorry fella's but if i worked at a place for 20 plus years i think I would fight for all those years I spent making that company rich. By the way I didn't hear anything about managment getting their salaries cut in half.

[Member17739]

Originally Posted by Shawn Wuan

By the way I didn't hear anything about managment getting their salaries cut in half.

Every member of the management can go out there and get a job with comparable pay. It's up to you to make yourself worth what you make or want to make. If the workers were worth what they make they wouldn't even need the UAW.