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World's biofuel production capacity continues to skyrocket
As you read these stories, think not just about the fuel, but about all of the related economic activity that the projects are creating, and how the money invested is staying in each area's local economy. Also note how in each area, fuel is being made from local resources.
Hawaii: 8 million gallons of biodiesel per year from algae ![]() An algae-based oil factory is being proposed for Maui. Here, a marine algae venture, run by HR BioPetroleum Inc. and Royal Dutch Shell PLC, is shown in Kailua-Kona. Quote:
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Iowa: 55 million gallons ethanol per year from corn Quote:
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Re: World's biofuel production capacity continues to skyrocket
The algae farms seem promising. There's experiments where vertical plates of glass sandwiching thin (but productive) layers of algae generate power. It's clean, and it's easy apparently. Go biofuel.
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Re: World's biofuel production capacity continues to skyrocket
HoosierRon, keep it coming. Looks like by the end of 2011 timeframe, there's going to be bookoo more biofuel coming versus now!
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HoosierRon,
I'm with ya.' How do I get E85 capability in a car I want to buy? Cheers, Ed Arcuri |
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Re: World's biofuel production capacity continues to skyrocket
So what does this all mean? I googled around a bit and found that they are expecting the US to use 9.2 million barrels of oil per day. Assuming 55 gals per barrel and 365 days per year, thats about 185, 000 million gallons a year of which about 72% or about 133,000 million barrels are imported per year. If my numbers are correct, and I won't swear to them, this is a there are a drop in the bucket. And keep this in mind:
- When 3rd world countries say they are planting 18, 000 hectacres (~45K acres), it probably means they are clear cutting rain forest. - My brother inlaw got $2.40ish for his contracted corn and got over 4 for anything after that last year. That's before all this new capacity. Competitive ethanol prices will come at the expense of higher food prices. I'm intrigued by the biodiesel possibilities, though. There was an article about a paper mill in park falls, Wi that generating fuel with paper making wasting. I wonder if the animal fat is really waste, though. I don't now about other animal processing processes, but I'd always heard that no part of a cow was waste... maybe it's different for chicken and pigs? Is there a down side to the alga process? It is good to see people striving and being creative, but I'm not sure any of these are ready or even any better. |
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How many 387 million gallons per year biofuel refineries are out there?
Each refinery of that size will take care of 1 day of fuel consumption. Biofuels are a nice start, but without breathtaking commercial and government investment, we remain far from self-sufficient. Maybe that's why I like T. Boone Picken's plan so much - Between biofuels, natural gas and electric cars, and all the other potential energy solutions we can develop, we just might become energy independent. http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html
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Of course these few stories are a drop in the bucket. However, this year the U.S. will produce about 8 billion gallons of ethanol. That displaces about 6-7% of the gasoline we use. We won't make nearly as much biodiesel (about 500 million gallons if I recall), but that displaces even more oil. The more important point is that the energy source are diversifying. Corn, sugar cane, algae, animal fat. Look in the alternative fuels forum, and you will find a lot of stories about cellulosic plants under construction. And biofuel is no longer is just a Midwestern product. It is being made everywhere. |
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17% cheaper than gasoline because of government subsidies, take those away and nobody would buy E85 or even E10 for that matter. Ethanol will be a side show, until it becomes cheaper than gasoline.
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http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html [EDIT] My numbers were wrong. From that same page above, the US uses 20.687 million barrels of petroleum per day. That puts total use at the equivalent of 317 billion gallons of gasoline per year, not the 141 billion I originally wrote. I'm revising the rest of my post. [/EDIT] The biodiesel from algae plant listed at the top of HoosierRon's first post claim 6,000 to 10,000 gallons of biodiesel per acre per year (and diesel is more energy dense than gasoline, but I'll ignore that). At 6,000 gallons per acre, and 640 acres per square mile, 82,550 square miles of US land are required for algae production of biodiesel to completely and totally replace all other petroleum sources. That's 2.2% of the surface area of the US, which seems insane until you figure that at current prices the equivalent of 317 billion gallons of diesel is worth about $1.5 trillion. If this technology works and is profitable (and I imagine a yield of 6,000 gallons per acre is profitable), then the use could start growing like crazy. A $1.5 trillion potential market - not even counting exports - has got to be very interesting to a lot of people. Last edited by Michael_S : 07-18-2008 at 02:32 PM. |
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