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Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
Switchgrass acres dedicated to ethanol
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
More good news. Thanx Ron.
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
I second that. There's not much else that can grow out in the Okla. panhandle anyway. Almost makes me wish I had 500-1000 acres, I could let someone pay me to grow switchgrass.
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
Since you live there, I am curious...what makes farming other crops difficult there? Us gardeners are always curious about things like that.
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
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In most of the state, there really isn't a problem growing/farming other crops (i.e. alfalfa, wheat, and so forth) I was speaking specifically about out in the panhandle. |
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
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That was what I meant...what makes farming difficult in the panhandle region?
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
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Thanks I suspected that as I used to garden in New Mexico and Colorado, and the parts of Oklahoma I saw on my many annual road trips from Denver to Tampa and back struck me as more benign versions of those regions where high alkalinity, soluble salts, lack of rainfall and soil nutrients made gardening a real challenge. I suspect that switchgrass farm is going to need a LOT of soil inputs to provide nitrogen and phosphorus plus lower the pH to free up micronutrients, plus a huge amount of water to thrive. The more I see and read as a gardener, environmentalist and car lover, the more I want to see cellulosic ethanol made from plant waste vs. cultivated crops used as a stop gap fuel in cars as we approach truly sustainable power sources for cars, like solar or bio-derived hydrogen for fuel cells, or solar electric for battery cars. The switchgrass plant I am testing here in a pot in humid Tampa is a real water hog. Thanks for the insight into that part of Oklahoma.
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
You do realize that potted plants require substantially more water than when they are in the ground?
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
Actually no...I grow a few hundred plants in pots in a moisture retentive soil mix with mulch to get them through this three year drought, a trick I picked up from some brilliant gardeners I know in desert California.....when your entire soil mass has become dry (our water table has plunged to 8 feet down and trees are dying in droves here and we can only water 1/2 day per week the last 3 years now), it MUCH easier to keep a localized soil mass in a pot damp then trying to keep the entire soil mass of a property wet. But my main point was that with that region being so very arid and switchgrass wanting 2-3 feet of water per acre per growing season, it could take a LOT of water that could be better used I feel to grow food crops for people or livestock. So I personally continue to favor cellulosic ethanol from plant waste vs. cultivated crops.
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
Yea, but biodeisel from algae grows year-round. No planting or harvesting required :-)
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
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Yes I share your enthusiasm for a few reasons...it uses brackish vs. potable water, has astonishing yields per acre, would not add nutrient flows to rivers and worsen those very disturbing (growing) "dead zones" in the Gulf where much of our seafood comes from and that wildlife depends on, plus yields proteins consumable by livestock and people. Leftover organic matter should make an excellent soil amendment too.
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Re: Oklahoma: world's largest switchgrass farm to be planted this spring
Here in Florida we can get BIG blooms and sometimes I have manually harvested some to add to my mulch and compost....I think the one loaded with all that oil is a very specific species, though I have no idea which.
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