Obama Plan: $7,000 Tax Credit for Chevy Volt, Entire White House Fleet to Plug-Ins

[eaton53]

Originally Posted by Kheiron

Also, how is that Honda vehicle that emits nothing but air and water ....being received by the car driving public?

Unless your a movie star why would you care?
You're not going to be able to get one anytime soon, if ever.

[A Bum In A Bus]

That will get my vote, it's about time the government did something for an industry other than BIG OIL!

[steinravnik]

Originally Posted by guitarlix

You go man!

At least this guy has SOME plan .

Kinda hard for this not to turn political...

Don't forget McCain's plan, you know the gas tax holiday. That is way more effective...

[steinravnik]

Originally Posted by TruckMan

Another reason I don't want Obama to win - wasting taxes on encouraging large materialistic purchases.

"But they did it for Toyota!" - That was a waste of tax dollars too.

In that case, let's quit wasting tax dollars on highways that encourage large materialistic purchases, as well as tax breaks for oil companies.

[cs1992]

Not one word about the one source of energy that could make a difference very quickly...NUCLEAR.

He's flip-flopped on oil drilling, troops in Iraq, and numerous other issues,so I can only hope that he will do the same with fission.

I do not understand democrats. They are quick to speak on clean energy, but rarely offer realistic ways to achieve it. Nuclear, even with its disposal issues, remains the best way in the near/medium term to address clean energy. The people want it, but the politicians won't listen.

PS - What's eevn scarier is that there is a MoveOn.Org Ad endorsing him at the bottom of the screen as I write.

[steinravnik]

Originally Posted by tama z71

We'll see. Campaign promises being what they are, Ill be surprised if any of this comes to pass. Im curious where the funding will come from, though.

Eliminating the billions wasted everyday in Iraq.

[PontiacBixler]

I am all for this.
If Obama ccould even convert 25% of all government vehicles over to Plug In Hybrids, especially Volts and Vues, you would see GM get such a shot in the arm. Promising something like this is in actuality a "bail out", but I don't care.

If the technology is here now, let's do it now and reap the success in the future.

I'm fuzzy on the Tax Rebate of $7000. Anyone who has done this please respond to my question:
How is this applied to your tax return filing? Do you automatically get a refund of $7000 or is there a $7000 deduction that is placed into all of your standard or itemized deductions in which you don't actually see $7000 back?

Thanks in advance!

[CaptainDan]

Originally Posted by SuperSS27

I think the "IDEA" is great, and more power too him if he actually does it. But seriously....where does he plan to get all the plug-in tech from when there isn't even a plug-in vehicle for sale yet....

"Plug in" is no challenge. Any hybrid can have that feature easily added. And GM already offers hybrid Tahoes. The White House suburban fleet could be easily supplied.

And while such a thing is just political posturing, and won't really directly do much, the image and the example ARE important. Such things do drive perceptions. And perceptions are what makes an administration. The sheep, I mean the people, need to be led!

[steinravnik]

Originally Posted by Zbad1

That is kind of like saying-

I'm for peace on earth!

I'm for 100 MPG Suburbans!

I'm for better looking women!

Of course his "plan" is great. That's what we all want. Like most of his speeches, this "plan" leaves you feeling all tingly and warm. But exactly HOW are we going to do this?

This is a non partisan issue that everybody agrees on. This is certainly not an example of a unique Obama policy that differentiates him from the competition. I'm glad we're talking about this, and I hope it happens, but nobody should vote for the man because of this big old "No Duh"!

It is "No Duh" to everyone except McCain and company. At least Obama is talking about a change. What does McCain propose? Gas tax holiday? Please....

[PontiacBixler]

Originally Posted by steinravnik

Kinda hard for this not to turn political...

Don't forget McCain's plan, you know the gas tax holiday. That is way more effective...

Yeah... Gas Tax Holiday..... Just a away for gas stations to lower the price of gas $0.03/gallon and take the rest in record profits. Your average consumer has NO IDEA how much each tax is on gas. Hell I'll go so far as to say even your highly educated consumer on the subject wouldn't be able to tell which gas station was not charging the tax or keeping the price high.

[steinravnik]

Originally Posted by PontiacBixler

I am all for this.
If Obama ccould even convert 25% of all government vehicles over to Plug In Hybrids, especially Volts and Vues, you would see GM get such a shot in the arm. Promising something like this is in actuality a "bail out", but I don't care.

If the technology is here now, let's do it now and reap the success in the future.

I'm fuzzy on the Tax Rebate of $7000. Anyone who has done this please respond to my question:
How is this applied to your tax return filing? Do you automatically get a refund of $7000 or is there a $7000 deduction that is placed into all of your standard or itemized deductions in which you don't actually see $7000 back?

Thanks in advance!

It may be a bail out of sorts, but at least the consumer benefits. The Japanese government helped fund the Prius, afterall.

[Mcmflow]

Originally Posted by SuperSS27

Im interested in how he plans on converting all the whitehouse vehicles to plug ins. Are they going to be all Vue's, Volt's and to a lesser extent.....Priuses? Who else is goign to have plug in's?

Will the LS 600H engine be strong enough to power the presidential Limo??? That thing is HUGE and Heavy, seem the spy pics of the next one. It has to have some kind of monster of an engine.

[edsuski]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Tells you he has no idea what the job entails. He thinks the president sits there looking at the white house fleet efficiency.
He thinks its like his little household.

We have lacked an energy policy from the Federal Government for Decades. It seems like the last President who had a "plan" was Jimmy Carter.

Keep in mind that 94%-96% of the oil this country uses is for transportation. If 78% of the people in America drive 40 miles or less to commute to and from work each day - then they could theoretically use zero oil to commute if they owned a plug-in hybrid. Reducing the demand for oil by 70+ percent would be very significant and could allow us to reduce our world wide oil consumption by that amount. If we wanted to pass a law to require that US sources were used "first" we could. In any event - a 70+ percent plus reduction would go a long way to reducing our dependency on foreign oil.

There are actually many ways to solve this problem - we simply need the political willpower to do so. I, for one, am very happy to hear that an Obama administration understands that a plug-in hybrid will be one important step forward.

Just a reminder when you are feeling funny about the Government subsidizing an energy policy – we are spending 3.3 Trillion dollars on this war with the Middle East.

[drew770]

Originally Posted by cs1992

Not one word about the one source of energy that could make a difference very quickly...NUCLEAR.

He's flip-flopped on oil drilling, troops in Iraq, and numerous other issues,so I can only hope that he will do the same with fission.

I do not understand democrats. They are quick to speak on clean energy, but rarely offer realistic ways to achieve it. Nuclear, even with its disposal issues, remains the best way in the near/medium term to address clean energy. The people want it, but the politicians won't listen.

PS - What's eevn scarier is that there is a MoveOn.Org Ad endorsing him at the bottom of the screen as I write.

What's even scarier is that our "War" in Iraq is costing China billions of dollars and that our government is so are in debt to China that it will take generations to pay off. But that was Great Leadership we had from the B-sh Administration!!!
And yes McCain has flip-flopped over the border, off-shore drilling, taxes and numerous other issues so what's your point???
Plus, I think people want off shore drilling but not nuclear. So how do we deal with the disposal issue? Pile it up in Yucca Mountain or dump it under the sea?

[greenrail]

Oh brother, what a bunch of convenmient political pandering to make everyone believe that you can make such changes to (insert your favorite crisis here).

Both sides are going to promise you the moon, stars and reduced taxes until they get your vote.

I wouldn't believe either of these snake oil salesmen.

It will be up to the American Public to make the necessary changes to their driving habits. Then we will see real change.

Over the years there has been way too much of this political mumbo jumbo to take any of it very seriously.