Obama Plan: $7,000 Tax Credit for Chevy Volt, Entire White House Fleet to Plug-Ins

[tirediron]

Originally Posted by johnny smallblock

This is exactly what we should be doing. No argument. No question. Regardless of your political preferences, this is what you want your president to do.

Amen to that.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by SuperSS27

Im interested in how he plans on converting all the whitehouse vehicles to plug ins. Are they going to be all Vue's, Volt's and to a lesser extent.....Priuses? Who else is goign to have plug in's?

Tells you he has no idea what the job entails. He thinks the president sits there looking at the white house fleet efficiency.
He thinks its like his little household.

[T-Type]

Originally Posted by SuperSS27

Im interested in how he plans on converting all the whitehouse vehicles to plug ins. Are they going to be all Vue's, Volt's and to a lesser extent.....Priuses? Who else is goign to have plug in's?

I agree, all the security vehicles might be a stretch right now (a plug in armoured Presidential Limo?), but I'm sure they have plenty of 'regular' vehicles in the fleet that could be converted easily.

[CaptainDan]

Originally Posted by TruckMan

And notice his words - "we will eliminate the need for oil from the entire Middle East and Venezuela." He never said we would stop buying from these countries, just eliminate the need. We'll still be buying just as much gas from those countries unless somebody passes a law.

That's good all the way around. Eliminate the need , but STILL buy the (obviously) cheaper oil from them. Use up THEIR oil (at lower prices) before we dig deeply into our own supply. Let's just hope nobody ever passes such a law.

[Ming]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

Tells you he has no idea what the job entails. He thinks the president sits there looking at the white house fleet efficiency.
He thinks its like his little household.

I think it's more of an image thing. How can you ask Americans to buy the cars when you're being driven around in a huge black Suburban?

We've criticized the politicians (like Gore) for doing that kind of thing before.

Now we criticize them for trying to fix it?

As for where these plug-ins will come from, I'm guessing they would set up some special fleet deal, like the Hydrogen Equinoxes out there.

Wasn't the Bush presidential DTS powered by a unique engine setup?

[SuperSS27]

Originally Posted by Ming

I think it's more of an image thing. How can you ask Americans to buy the cars when you're being driven around in a huge black Suburban?

We've criticized the politicians (like Gore) for doing that kind of thing before.

Now we criticize them for trying to fix it?

As for where these plug-ins will come from, I'm guessing they would set up some special fleet deal, like the Hydrogen Equinoxes out there.

Wasn't the Bush presidential DTS powered by a unique engine setup?

I think the "IDEA" is great, and more power too him if he actually does it. But seriously....where does he plan to get all the plug-in tech from when there isn't even a plug-in vehicle for sale yet....

[windvale]

Originally Posted by mbukukanyau

you are not a republican.

Just curious - how do you figure that ?

[HoosierRon]

Let me know when he announces the $150 billion in spending cuts to pay for this. Or will he just borrow another $150 billion from the Chinese for 30 years at 7% interest?

If there is a shortage of demand for Volts, then I am all for a tax credit. But why give out a credit if GM will sell all it can produce anyway? What is the benefit?

[ronald mcretard]

This is great news. I hope McCain comes out with a similar plan, and then whoever wins we will hopefully have a comprehensive plan to get ourselves off of foreign oil ASAP.

[HoosierRon]

Originally Posted by windvale

Just curious - how do you figure that ?

Easy. Republicans were initially for tax cuts (Bush) and against them (McCain).

Republicans are for border control (Tancredo) and against border control (Bush).

Republicans are pro-choice (Giuliani) and pro-life (Bush).

Republicans are pro-pork barrel spending (Lott) and against pork-barrel spending (McCain).

See, it is easy to spot a Republican a mile away.

[ronald mcretard]

Originally Posted by SuperSS27

I think the "IDEA" is great, and more power too him if he actually does it. But seriously....where does he plan to get all the plug-in tech from when there isn't even a plug-in vehicle for sale yet....

It is actually easy to convert existing vehicles to be plug-ins as long as you have the money. I would guess that the White House fleet could be converted for a few million bucks. It might be questionable if that would be worth it, but I think it would provide a good symbolic gesture that may persuade more Americans to pursue alternative vehicles.

[eaton53]

Originally Posted by CaptainDan

That's good all the way around. Eliminate the need , but STILL buy the (obviously) cheaper oil from them. Use up THEIR oil (at lower prices) before we dig deeply into our own supply. Let's just hope nobody ever passes such a law.

China will still buy it.
I'd embargo 'em. What comes around goes around...

I think the "IDEA" is great, and more power too him if he actually does it. But seriously....where does he plan to get all the plug-in tech from when there isn't even a plug-in vehicle for sale yet....

I think GM will be able to hook the gubment up with plug-in Tahoes & Suburbans before long.
That's some pretty nice guaranteed sales right there... and the competition can't supply 'em.

[Kheiron]

7k off on a Volt, great! So if it sells for 40, that brings it to 33k...

do all of you think GM will Lease the Volt or just buy for purchase?

Also, how is that Honda vehicle that emits nothing but air and water ....being received by the car driving public?

[Zbad1]

That is kind of like saying-

I'm for peace on earth!

I'm for 100 MPG Suburbans!

I'm for better looking women!

Of course his "plan" is great. That's what we all want. Like most of his speeches, this "plan" leaves you feeling all tingly and warm. But exactly HOW are we going to do this?

This is a non partisan issue that everybody agrees on. This is certainly not an example of a unique Obama policy that differentiates him from the competition. I'm glad we're talking about this, and I hope it happens, but nobody should vote for the man because of this big old "No Duh"!

[Ming]

Originally Posted by ronald mcretard

This is great news. I hope McCain comes out with a similar plan, and then whoever wins we will hopefully have a comprehensive plan to get ourselves off of foreign oil ASAP.

That's right. And I hope whoever wins makes getting off our dependence on oil as big a priority as getting to the Moon, building the Panama Canal and the Manhattan Project.

It really isn't something I think that we can afford to let fall by the wayside, even if gas prices come down to, say, $3 for a while.

Originally Posted by Kheiron

7k off on a Volt, great! So if it sells for 40, that brings it to 33k...

do all of you think GM will Lease the Volt or just buy for purchase?

Also, how is that Honda vehicle that emits nothing but air and water ....being received by the car driving public?

Can anyone really just go and buy the Honda Hydrogen car? Or is it an extremely limited market and lease-only deal like the EV-1 was?