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Old 05-14-2008, 04:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Minnesota mandates 20% biodiesel

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so if they mandate the 20% and many car warranties can be void for using it, then what?
Nothing.

Car makers started "approving" biodiesel content because in the early days of biodiesel, it was anything goes. Home brewers would cook up who-knew-what, so manufacturers set a limit of 5%. Today, commercial manufacturers of biodiesel make their product so that it passes the ASTM standard. The biodiesel will not harm the vehicle, and manufactures are not allowed to arbitrarily void a warranty if the owner did not actually do something to harm the car.
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so if they mandate the 20% and many car warranties can be void for using it, then what?
WTF I was under the impression that these people making biodiesel from cooking oil were putting it in regular diesel vehicles...?

Sounds like a oil company ploy to me. Or maybe it does void warranties, but doesn't cause any harm? If it was causing damage, we'd have heard about it now.
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What makes you think biodiesel comes from food sources?
I dunno, just shows my ignorance. I just lump them all into one. OK, if its a logical alternative without having the harmful affects of increasing food prices, then OK

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The reason food prices have gone up is because transportation fuels have gone up.
In part. But farmers shifting to more lucrative crops for use as fuel is also a contributor.

As with most things. It ain't simple.

People who seek simple solutions to complex problems are kidding themselves. But, it does make you feel better. A little research reveals that many of these issues don't have a "one-size-fits-all" fix.
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Re: Minnesota mandates 20% biodiesel

This is great, it's going to jack up the cost of tofu and pisz off the vegetarians. I'm all for it. 2011 Silveradado HD Powered by Tofu!
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Exactly, this way we can also end ALL farm subsidies and make them earn their money.
Do you mean to include the great Long Island faahmah David Letterman in that statement?
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Re: Minnesota mandates 20% biodiesel

one thing people should know about farm policy and subsidies is that its partially intended to prevent the US farmers from falling prey to crop dumping etc. in overseas competition. something to think about, we are already hooked on imported oil.....once other nations got us hooked on selling us all our food and if we were not able to produce our own food ourselves, we would really be screwed and ripe for takeover. so to some degree, you always want to be able to have it so we can produce most of our food here.
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