Lutz: "Don't tell me how to make an E-car"

[Caleb02]

i think they should offer an option to have a corvette with a hybrid 4cyl turbo or 6cyl turbo with a diesel engine and make it mid engine.

[Edaw 0]

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

This is a load of crap.

The EV1 could very well be produced "as is." They would just have to limit the top speed to 35 mph (easily done electronically) -- the 12 year old design would meet all current and future safety standards for a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle classification.

Lots of municipalities are buying neighborhood electric vehicles in the thousands for fleets (colleges, police departments, maintenance companies).

And this would be profitable?


How?

[megeebee]

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

This is a load of crap.

The EV1 could very well be produced "as is." They would just have to limit the top speed to 35 mph (easily done electronically) -- the 12 year old design would meet all current and future safety standards for a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle classification.

How do you know any of this? You think GM has everything required to build this decade-old design, including the plant capacity and supplier base, to just flip a switch and start selling them by, oh I don't know, next Thursday???

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

Just more rubbish from Mr. "Stick Our Head in the Sand" Lutz.
He's much of the reason GM is in so much trouble -- his lack of insight.
Lots of municipalities are buying neighborhood electric vehicles in the thousands for fleets (colleges, police departments, maintenance companies).

Really? How are sales of the Honda INSIGHT?



Oh that's right. They're zero !!!!!

Honda stopped making them! How's that for:

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

... lack of insight.

Why aren't you at some Honda forum calling for the retirement of their CEO???

The only

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

..load of crap

.... that I smell, is coming from you.


An American automaker is actually trying to change the world and produce a viable, practical, electrically powered vehicle for mass production and sale to the largest number of people possible. Instead of pride at the attempt and support of those involved, all I ever read is the smug condecension of the uneducated know-it-all.

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

This is a load of crap.

The EV1 could very well be produced "as is." They would just have to limit the top speed to 35 mph (easily done electronically) -- the 12 year old design would meet all current and future safety standards for a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle classification.

Just more rubbish from Mr. "Stick Our Head in the Sand" Lutz.

He's much of the reason GM is in so much trouble -- his lack of insight.
Lots of municipalities are buying neighborhood electric vehicles in the thousands for fleets (colleges, police departments, maintenance companies).

He's long overdue to retire.

Do you know the cost it would be to do that?

Also do you know those vehicles ALREADY exist, have you ever seen a GEM vehicle?

EV1 would cost more than GEM and thus no one would buy them.

Seriously some of you are functionally retarded.

[Joe Ego]

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

The EV1 could very well be produced "as is." They would just have to limit the top speed to 35 mph (easily done electronically) -- the 12 year old design would meet all current and future safety standards for a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle classification.

Because we all know several institutions are interested in a two-seat, $80k+ coupe to replace their entire fleet of golf carts.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

This is a load of crap.

The EV1 could very well be produced "as is." They would just have to limit the top speed to 35 mph (easily done electronically) -- the 12 year old design would meet all current and future safety standards for a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle classification.

Just more rubbish from Mr. "Stick Our Head in the Sand" Lutz.

He's much of the reason GM is in so much trouble -- his lack of insight.
Lots of municipalities are buying neighborhood electric vehicles in the thousands for fleets (colleges, police departments, maintenance companies).

He's long overdue to retire.

If Lutz's decision is a load of crap, then the quoted post is a crock of ****.

His "lack of insight" brought on the Malibu, CTS, Lambdas, and the Volt. What more do you want from the guy? If anything, he's saved GM from a lineup full of bland, boring rebadges.
And 35 MPH? We'd sell maybe a hundred of them to the local country club to replace golf carts. No municipality is going to buy a car that only goes 35 MPH, even for neighborhood use. What if the need arises to go above 35 MPH, say an emergency situation? Picture if you will, a police officer patrolling a neighborhood in one of these things. Suddenly, a wanted pedophile speeds past with two kidnapped kids. Oops. Cop can't chase after him, his car only goes 35 MPH.
People need to give Lutz more credit than they do. He's not stupid. Furthermore, the guy has a much better sense of the company and its products than any of us do.
Jesus Christ. It's posts like this that make me wonder what would happen if others were in charge of GM. A sickening feeling rises.

[JeffInDFW]

Boys....great responces to a rediculous post. Well done.

[zete]

Bah. That environmentalist isn't thinking BIG.

Here's my idea for GM. Bring back Fisher Body and make them make Fisher Bodies for horse drawn carriages again. That way, we'll be able to use something that runs on oats or hay (and water)! Fisher Body did it before they can do it again! How hard can it be.

[ogg vorbis]

Originally Posted by ColoradoZQ8

This is a load of crap.

The EV1 could very well be produced "as is." They would just have to limit the top speed to 35 mph (easily done electronically) -- the 12 year old design would meet all current and future safety standards for a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle classification.

Just more rubbish from Mr. "Stick Our Head in the Sand" Lutz.

He's much of the reason GM is in so much trouble -- his lack of insight.
Lots of municipalities are buying neighborhood electric vehicles in the thousands for fleets (colleges, police departments, maintenance companies).

He's long overdue to retire.

i thought this was very clever and satirical. either the rest of you are 'functionally retarded' or just way too uptight. lol

[TORRED1]

First generation $80k (EV1) Second generation $40k (volt), 3rd gen ???? $20k or less, the price of technology does come down.

[5.3Avalanche]

Originally Posted by JeffInDFW

Boys....great responces to a rediculous post. Well done.

...x2

[mbukukanyau]

^^^ this enviro nut in his religious zeal, did not pause for a moment and realize that he just got hit by lightening.
In his save mother earth stupor, he did not seem to appriciate what Lutz was saying. That, "your ideas are nutty..." and have no basis in reality.
the funny thing is that these enviros develop their own lies and then beleive them.

[mbukukanyau]

Originally Posted by Edaw 0

And this would be profitable?


How?

It is clear that you never took the class on Evils of profits and the perils of the oppressed working man.

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by jcgable

All I'm saying is that no other manufacturer has an executive that would go on the comments section of an article and badger them. There's a reason for this.

Prove them wrong with product, not with talk. Especially on such an unfiltered medium.

Oh Bull****.

Do both.

Which seems to be exactly what Mr. Lutz and Company are going to do.

Way to go, Mr. Lutz.

[ColoradoZQ8]

Originally Posted by Edaw 0

And this would be profitable?


How?

Well, if GM can't turn a profit -- oops, never mind.

GM doesn't even turn a profit building regular cars.

Funny, there are over a dozen companies building Electric Vehicles sucessfully...
GEM, Telsa, etc.

But -- GM's trademark is bragging to the media and never delivering, why should this be any different?

One simple mod (limiting the top speed) -- would have kept the EV1 viable. Yet, they wasted a billion dollars and have nothing to show for it. They are great at that -- wasting money. How's that Fiat investment paying off?