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Old 05-22-2008, 07:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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GM Plans To Market Volt Car In 2010 For Below $30,000-Report

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22. May 2008 general of engine (GM) advances in the development of its electric car volt fast and calls for the first time price and introduction on the market. „GM has a completely clear goal: We want to bring the volt on the market to a price of less than 30,000 dollar to 2010 “, said GM chief executive Rick Wagoner of the Frankfurt general newspaper. So far GM had only explained to want to begin at the end of of 2010 with the quantity production volts under the mark of the Chevrolet.
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If they can bring it in under $30k then it will sell very well. I'm still disappointed it is only a 4 seater however because my 3rd kid won't appreciate riding in the trunk. Hopefully they expand the technology to other cars quickly that are more family oriented. About an E-Flex Zafira, then maybe I can buy one.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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man i hope it does get here....it's gonna sell out with gas prices rising!
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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the sooner the better...and while they're at it, I hope this technology migrates to a delta II Cobalt ""XFE"" ASAP! Might also want it in a Malibu and start an "Emerald" Lineup and stick it in there too.

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22. May 2008 general of engine (GM) advances in the development of its electric car volt fast and calls for the first time price and introduction on the market. „GM has a completely clear goal: We want to bring the volt on the market to a price of less than 30,000 dollar to 2010 “, said GM chief executive Rick Wagoner of the Frankfurt general newspaper. So far GM had only explained to want to begin at the end of of 2010 with the quantity production volts under the mark of the Chevrolet.
If the "General of Engine" is able to price the Volt below $30k, I can't see it not being a success. That's good news.

Aren't Wagoner and Lutz contradicting each other publicly, though? I seem to recall Lutz saying "don't expect the Volt under $40k" or something like that not too long ago.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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here is a link to a cleaned up version of the report

http://gm-volt.com/2008/05/22/gm-ceo...ss-than-30000/
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w00t!!!

That means Volt will MSRP at $29,995.
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i wonder how much dealers will want to charge you for wanting one of these
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The Volt (like the next gen Cobalt) will be based on Delta II. The MSRP on a new Cobalt 1LT sedan is $15,595. That leaves $14,400 for batteries, electric motor, and controller, to be able to come in at $29,995 or less.

I know the battery pack has got to be expensive, but I think it's doable without too much of a subsidy. Especially when you consider that the Volt will not need (I think) a transmission (big savings), and can use a very simple ICE to power the on-board generator. (ICE will run at a fixed RPM - won't need 4 valves, VVT or any of that stuff related to a wide power band.)
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Has anyone heard what they are actually considering for a ICE generator? Maybe if diesel gets more popular here in the US we'll get a diesel version which I would think would be ideal for a generator.
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Volt at 29,995 will sell out.
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Has anyone heard what they are actually considering for a ICE generator? Maybe if diesel gets more popular here in the US we'll get a diesel version which I would think would be ideal for a generator.

Diesel is great as a generator. Most portable generators run diesel. I'm not sure how much fuel savings it would provide given that it should only run for a couple of hours a week. I think you could get the same effect by putting in an HCCI gas engine. The weight advantage and cheaper cost of gasoline should outweigh any advantages of the diesel.
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Diesel is great as a generator. Most portable generators run diesel. I'm not sure how much fuel savings it would provide given that it should only run for a couple of hours a week. I think you could get the same effect by putting in an HCCI gas engine. The weight advantage and cheaper cost of gasoline should outweigh any advantages of the diesel.
Diesel might be better because you can use biodiesel, or convert it to run on vegetable oil. And since you won't be using it much, you won't need much vegetable oil to be completely free of foreign oil.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:22 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Make my ICE for the generator gas please. Either way, gas or diesel, I think they should make an hour meter for the ICE part of the electronics package. Odometer reading will not relate very well to ICE usage, especially on a short trip commuter vehicle.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'll buy one.
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