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Old 09-12-2008, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GM Delivers Fuel Cell Equinox to EPA for Testing

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General Motors Corp. said Friday it delivered a hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle to the Environmental Protection Agency as part of a market test for the technology.

The EPA will use the fuel cell electric Chevy Equinox in its fleet for normal business in Washington, D.C., GM said. Electronic recording devices will record the zero-emission vehicle's performance data.
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Old 09-12-2008, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: GM Delivers Fuel Cell Equinox to EPA for Testing

i saw one of those fuel cell equinox last week here in alexandria va.

i think fuel cell has a better possibility than a all electric car to replace fossil fuel since an electric car still pollutes in the long run (coal for electricity and other forms of pollution from generating electricity) and will strain the electrical grid.
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Re: GM Delivers Fuel Cell Equinox to EPA for Testing

I wonder how close GM is to selling these all-electric fuel cell powered Equinoxes?
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i saw one of those fuel cell equinox last week here in alexandria va.

i think fuel cell has a better possibility than a all electric car to replace fossil fuel since an electric car still pollutes in the long run (coal for electricity and other forms of pollution from generating electricity) and will strain the electrical grid.
hydrogen is made with electricity too.

of course a fuel cell can be quick-filled, unlike an EV, so it has an advantage there.
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Re: GM Delivers Fuel Cell Equinox to EPA for Testing

Oh? What will the EPA do with it? They don't even know how to "test" a Volt.
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Oh? What will the EPA do with it? They don't even know how to "test" a Volt.
My thoughts, exactly.
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Oh? What will the EPA do with it? They don't even know how to "test" a Volt.
Yeah. I'm sure they will find a way to get it to post numbers below other fuel cell vehicles.
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Oh? What will the EPA do with it? They don't even know how to "test" a Volt.
They will say it only gives you 36 mpg.

you beat me to it..

GM is determined to remove itself from the enviromental debate. I hope they bring this car to Market before Honda does its own.
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I wonder how close GM is to selling these all-electric fuel cell powered Equinoxes?
my thoughts exactly.. i want this on the road
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Re: GM Delivers Fuel Cell Equinox to EPA for Testing

Reverse engineer it and sell it to our Japanese and Chinese friends?

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Oh? What will the EPA do with it? They don't even know how to "test" a Volt.
yet another misleading headline.
The EPA is NOT going to be testing the car. They simply have it as part of GM's "Project Driveway" program which puts the fuel cell Equinox into real-world situations. Call it evaluating, not testing.

GM does its own TESTING when it comes to emissions & economy, NOT the EPA.
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Re: GM Delivers Fuel Cell Equinox to EPA for Testing

Does it bother anyone else as much as I that they put the Torrent's headlights on it and still call it an Equinox?

I mean it physically makes me agitated when I see this thing and they call it an Equinox.
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yet another misleading headline.
The EPA is NOT going to be testing the car. They simply have it as part of GM's "Project Driveway" program which puts the fuel cell Equinox into real-world situations. Call it evaluating, not testing.

GM does its own TESTING when it comes to emissions & economy, NOT the EPA.
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General Motors Corp. said Friday it delivered a hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle to the Environmental Protection Agency as part of a market test for the technology.
I title the articles the same way they're written.

And I hate to break it to you, but the EPA definitely DOES test every vehicle for economy. That's why it's called the "EPA-estimated fuel economy."
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Re: GM Delivers Fuel Cell Equinox to EPA for Testing

Haha.. TAKE THAT EPA!

Let's see them try to rate this one at 48 mpg.

Now if they want to rate this for efficiency, they will have to re-do their whole system.
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I title the articles the same way they're written.

And I hate to break it to you, but the EPA definitely DOES test every vehicle for economy. That's why it's called the "EPA-estimated fuel economy."
Wasn't accusing YOU of the misleading headline.

And I hate to break it to you, but the major automakers are self-certifying. The EPA does not test every vehicle for fuel economy any more than NHTSA does testing on every vehicle to make sure it meets FMVSS requirements.
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