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Old 04-29-2008, 09:44 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: GM announces location of Coskata cellulosic ethanol plant

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So what is the source of energy gor these plasma torches? What percentage of energy equivalent ethanol would be needed to fuel these torches? Is there a net energy source output greater than input? My guess is coal is the input fuel. If so, are we really just converting coal energy combined with cellulose from feedstock for ethanol? I'm just curious about the energy breakdown here.
There was an article about something that sounds similar in Popular Science last year. I found a copy of the article here:
http://www.michaelbehar.com/popsci/longo.html
[EDIT] That's MichaelBehar.com, Michael Behar wrote the article for Popular Science. The official article is here:
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/articl...rophet-garbage [/EDIT]


They claim the process is efficient enough that the fuel generated by it can be used to power the plasma torch with plenty left over.

I hope it's self-sustaining, because it wouldn't be nearly as useful if they need separate electrical power from coal to run the thing. There are already other processes to convert coal to crude oil, this plasma machine just adds an extra step.

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Old 05-02-2008, 02:07 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: GM announces location of Coskata cellulosic ethanol plant

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Do you have any idea where I can get more information on this especially what type of source material they are using and how much they need and then where they think they are going to get it. My dad works for a large lumber company that produces a lot of waste. If Coskata is looking for source material there are a generous amount of lumber mills that have mountains of cut ends, sawdust, and bark that possibly could be used. His company is out of Brookville, PA about 100 miles from Madison. I would just love to say that my house is built out of, my furniture is made out of, and my truck is powered by northwest Pennsylvania hardwoods.



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