$4.00 Gas A Reality

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by Saturn69

Why are you so angry? I haven't seen any posts saying we shouldn't drill in ANWR.

It should be obvious that I really HATE greens, mostly because of their "holier than thou" attitude toward the world.

[unkillsam]

Originally Posted by Saturn69

Because for too many years the Big 3 have focused on the easy money of SUV's and the American appetite for cheap fuel. Now that those days are numbered, they should be adapting to the changing market, instead they're pushing their new 5000lb CUV's and talking about a new Hummer they're thinking of building. Stupidity.

CAFE killed the station wagon and invented the SUV.

The Japanese market the hell out of their trucks and SUV's too.

Someone is a closet domestic hater.

[Saturn69]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

It should be obvious that I really HATE greens, mostly because of their "holier than thou" attitude toward the world.

Why? It's your life, why let someone else's opinion shape how you feel? Screw 'em. I HATE neo-Cons and their Jingoistic ideas for America and their sense of self-entitlement, but I don't let it get to me .

Conservation isn't a bad thing, and I know it won't lower the price, but hey, anytime you use less of something you save money, right?

[Saturn69]

Originally Posted by unkillsam

CAFE killed the station wagon and invented the SUV.

The Japanese market the hell out of their trucks and SUV's too.

Someone is a closet domestic hater.

No, CAFE didn't kill the station wagon, the manufacturers did when they created the SUV to bypass the CAFE standards that the wagons couldn't meet. I am not a closet domestic hater, I have never owned, nor will I ever own, a foreign car. No Toyotas, no Hondas, no Nissan or VW. It just saddens me that the only thing GM can build right is an SUV. My Ion gets 33-35 or so, but it's the same size as the Civic. Why can't GM make the Ion get 40 like the Civic does? That's what upsets me.

P.S. I've owned nothing but GM since I started driving. That's loyalty. I only wish they could match the foreign cars on fuel economy, that's reality.

[DuSpinnst]

Originally Posted by Saturn69

Conservation isn't a bad thing, and I know it won't lower the price, but hey, anytime you use less of something you save money, right?

True, but I still don't want someone telling me what to save.

I am very comfortable with the amount of oil I use per year (which is about average), now the amount of money I spend on eating out is something I am NOT comfortable with. Restaurants are way to damn expensive.

What peeves me off is when someone on one side of the spectrum (right or left) thinks they are "morally superior" because of their way of thinking. I prefer to say, just let me use my money how I want, and leave me alone otherwise. I try to think that a lot of things we want regulated (weather to the right or to the left) should be left up[ to personal choice. The flip side is, that if someone makes a bad choice, then tough luck, they need to learn from it and move on. Which to many people sounds harsh.

[yoblues]

In the end the market will determine what stays and what goes. Although I do expect Trucks and Suv's to take a beating once the cafe rules are revised

[john1701a]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

It should be obvious that I really HATE greens, mostly because of their "holier than thou" attitude toward the world.

What a confusing thing to say. Both the terms "green" and "world" are quite vague.

I suspect being "green" requires some kind of big sacrifice well beyond just spending more for the hybrid option alone. The false belief of getting forced out of your vehicle type of choice, rather than simply being asked to consider the upgrade next time to a cleaner and more efficient propulsion system, is common. That's unfortunate. But misconceptions are still abundant.

As for having an attitude, our country's automotive market is very different (we guzzle much more) than the rest of the world. Yet, the denial of that isn't considered "holier" and the acknowledgement of it is. That's backwards. And that's quite troubling when you consider how slowly change is accepted.

JOHN

[XP300]

Originally Posted by DuSpinnst

the amount of money I spend on eating out is something I am NOT comfortable with. Restaurants are way to damn expensive.

There's always eating at home, Kraft macaroni & cheese, hotdogs & beans, McDonalds, Wendys, etc.. J/K

You're right! It's a shame that too many people sit and judge others while living life "their way". That includes people on both the left and right.

Our Trailblazer has been one of the best choices I've made. I can pick up "stuff" for the house and not have to pay delivery charges (saves money). Is it economical? Actually, it's not bad. I get about 17 mpg average suburban and 22 mpg on the road.

I plan most driving around multiple stops and try to avoid stop light racing. It's difficult as most people don't realize that a 275 HP Trailblazer can be pretty quick, when driven by a driver using both feet. At $4 a gallon, I would probably give the trailblazer to my wife and use the CTS more often.

[Proetus]

Everyone knows that the US with 8% of global oil production and 0% of the top five oil companies by volume controls global oil prices.