Toyota global sales; 9.37 million vehicles for 2007

[Geotpf]

Originally Posted by ColinOpseth

You're correct, sort of. Japan has a closed market which means that GM can't open dealerships there. But, the caveat is that GM sells cars under other brands, name Suzuki and Isuzu. I'd be interested to see what GM cars are sold as Toyota, though. Remember the Toyota Cavalier?

Another interesting thought. Domestic cars imported to Japan are VERY popular. Look at the third generation Camaro movement. Wow. Also, the Chevrolet Astro.

That's not exactly true. GM has had very little success in Japan. It's not tariffs; import tariffs of vehicles are zero in Japan (US has import tariffs). Now, whether it's consumer taste (GM selling vehicles inappropiate for the market (too big, steering wheel on the wrong side) or Japanese consumer prefrence for domestic brands), non-tariff governmental interference, or a little bit of both, is unclear. But GM does sell vehicles in Japan), just not very many.

http://www.gmjapan.co.jp/
http://www.chevrolet.co.jp/
http://www.gm-corvette.jp/
http://www.cadillac.co.jp/
http://www.hummer.mitsui.co.jp/
http://www.saab.co.jp/

[reefblue42]

Originally Posted by Saturn69

Don't really care, they'll never get me in one. Take that Toyota! Resistance is NOT futile, Toycutus.

[Joevette]

Originally Posted by andy82471

The figures exclude Subaru and ISUZU since their stake at those two companies are less than 50%. Figures include sales from TOYOTA, LEXUS, SCION, DIHATSU, and HINO. Although by end of this year Toyota might actually buy a majority stake at SUBARU. That will allow them to include Subaru sales figures.

that sure would be a shame. Ruining a promising brand

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by andy82471

The figures exclude Subaru and ISUZU since their stake at those two companies are less than 50%. Figures include sales from TOYOTA, LEXUS, SCION, DIHATSU, and HINO. Although by end of this year Toyota might actually buy a majority stake at SUBARU. That will allow them to include Subaru sales figures.

So for now lets just look at DIAHATSU (AKA SCION in USA) AND HINO .

Why does Toyota get their full count ?

[Robert Ryan]

Why does Toyota get their full count

HINO is like GMC to GM..fully owned by them.Toyota pretty well owns Daihatsu as well.

[Geotpf]

Originally Posted by AMERICA 123

So for now lets just look at DIAHATSU (AKA SCION in USA) AND HINO .

Why does Toyota get their full count ?

All of those are majority owned (>50%) by Toyota.

And Diahatsu has nothing to do with Scion, other than they are both owned by Toyota.

Scion's current lineup is as follows:

Scion xB, who's current version is a US-only vehicle. The previous version was a rebadge of the Japanese-market Toyota bB. The second generation of the bB was not carried over to the US market Scion xB. That second generation Toyota bB (which is totally different from the US market secopnd generation xB) has a rebadge Daihatsu, called the Materia. The previous version shared a platform and engine with the Toyota ECHO; the current version has the same engine as in a Camry and is sold in Japan under the Corolla family; the Toyota Corolla Rumion.

Scion tC, which is also an unique US market coupe version of the European-market Toyota Avensis, again with the same engine as in the Camry.

Scion xD, which is a US market version of the Toyota ist and shares a platform with the Toyota Yaris. It's similar to the discontinued xA, which shared a platform with the Toyota ECHO and previous xB.

As far as I can tell, no Scion model is, or ever has been, a rebadge of any Diahatsu model. The only connection is that the second generation of a Toyota car has a Diahatsu rebadge when the first generation had a Scion rebadge.

[AMERICA 123]

Originally Posted by Geotpf

All of those are majority owned (>50%) by Toyota.

There , got rid of the mixed up 1/2 truth outright wrong mixed up together stuff . (Your welcome .)

On the percentages ...... cough .... cough ......gee isn't that uhmmm 'disingenious' ......leaving out the exact %s - and the history behind them ?

[andy82471]

Originally Posted by AMERICA 123

There , got rid of the mixed up 1/2 truth outright wrong mixed up together stuff . (Your welcome .)

On the percentages ...... cough .... cough ......gee isn't that uhmmm 'disingenious' ......leaving out the exact %s - and the history behind them ?

Anytime you own better than 50% of a company you practically own that company. That is the same reason Daewoo, Holden, Opel, and Saab sales figure are tallied with GM figures. Speaking of the sales race, it seems like GM is throwing in the towel at least for the next couple of years.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0080112?rpc=44

FRANKFURT, Jan 12 (Reuters) - General Motors Corp (GM.N: Quote, Profile, Research), which is likely to have been supplanted by Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T: Quote, Profile, Research) as the world's largest carmaker last year, says quality is more important than production volume.
GM would not "spend one dollar in order to be number one," global product chief Bob Lutz told industry newspaper Automobilwoche in an interview due to be published on Monday.
"Good product quality, the company's image and the profit for shareholders are more important goals than the top position in volume."
Toyota said on Thursday global vehicle sales rose 6 percent to 9.37 million units in 2007, almost certainly nudging out GM, which has not yet published full year figures but has been the biggest automaker in the world for decades.
Lutz added that he did not intend to retire until the market launch of the Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid in 2011 is underway. (Reporting by Christiaan Hetzner, Editing by Peter Blackburn)