May consumer exit out of gas-quaffing trucks and SUVs means big trouble for Big Three

[IROCNROL1]

Originally Posted by hunchman

oh I love these threads where the sky is falling

Why is it that GM is planning overtime at some of its truck plants if it is so bad. Is GM doing this so GMI posters can blame the union for making them do it? hmmmmmmmm

Why are you guys making GM build trucks they can't sell?

[cmoore]

Originally Posted by hunchman

oh I love these threads where the sky is falling

Why is it that GM is planning overtime at some of its truck plants if it is so bad. Is GM doing this so GMI posters can blame the union for making them do it? hmmmmmmmm

Based on todays announcement of 4 factory closings, including the truck plant in Oshawa where I live, it does seem like the sky is falling. While I do not personally work at GM, a lot of my friends do and they do not have a job at the end of next year.

[Mr. Burns]

Originally Posted by gardnet1

BTW, GM is having a hard time selling the Yukon/Tahoe Hybrids, I think they need more commercials such as a side by side comparision with a 4 banger camry, saying that they both get the same mileage but which would you rather have (showing the Yukon Hybrid with a ski boat hooked up too it).

The Tahoe hybrid costs nearly 3 times as much as a 4cyl Camry, for that kind of money give me an X5 or something.

[LARSONEM]

Originally Posted by Lunden

BTW, GM is having a hard time selling the Yukon/Tahoe Hybrids

WHAT?!?!?!?!? They are only 50k What's the deal?

Only 50K! HA! And they still only get 20 mpg, either on the highway or in town. If I needed it for cargo hauling or towing, that would be one thing. However when I replace the current 2001 Tahoe that I now have, I want something that gets better than 20 mpg. With two kids nearing college age, the cost of living, the lack of a pay raise . . . I think a new 50K - 20 mpg vehicle is a little out of the question.

[PrenupTB]

GM's May sales were down 30%!!!! It's over for them. Most of their cars are flops or uncompetitive.

[Sal Collaziano]

This is correct. The days of $3.00/gallon gas are over. If the price of oil goes down to $1.00/barrel, they'll think of some other reason to keep the prices where they are (Alien beings from another planet demanding money for the oil or we'll be blasted into extinction - or anything along those lines).

That may sound ridiculous - but the world is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by PhishPhood

If you seriously think fuel is going to go back to $3 a gallon they you need to jump right on Chrysler's 'Hire me in marketing list'. You may never see fuel as low as $3 again. Ford is planning on fuel staying in the $3.75 - $4.25 range through all of this year and all of next year......then it really goes higher.

It's that kind of unrealistic hope-against-hope that got Chrysler into the mess it's in....GM and Ford to a lesser extent. Why would you want to contribute to outdated hopes? Why not just deal with the situation in front of you. China and India are just going to suck up all the excess oil in the world for the foreseeable future. No matter what we do the prices are going to European levels.

Only when massive alt-fuel production starts will we begin to see some relief. Why hide from this data? Why not just deal with it?

[Stew]

Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Try finding a Patriot on the lot of a Jeep dealer. I have. You can't. But Chrysler will happily pump out Aspens and Durangos all day long.

Perhaps if the lots were not empty of the small vehicles they do make, they might actually sell them.

You're telling me, I started out looking at fullsize trucks because of all the money on the hood, when gas eclipsed 3.50, I switched to looking for smaller vehicles and decided on a aptriot. Between 3 local dealerships I found 4, 2 had 2 each and 1 had none. Waited a week, went back and the 2 others dealers had 1 each, ended up getting a leftover 07 with the 4xd and a 5 speed stick.

[johnd59]

I can see why no one posted this but this is the GM May sales link

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=6&docid=46181