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Old 06-01-2007, 11:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thats just great news. Then you should combine the sales of the Sky to see platform to platform, who sales more. And the answer still is GM! lol
Yep. Plus, the plant is building 3,000 Opel GTs - that takes away from the number of US Kappas they can build. To add insult to injury, the kappas cost more and don't have any incentives.
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Not on the year though! It's 18,000 Compass versus 10,000 Patriot. That HAS to be wrong!
Hasn't the Compass been out longer than the Patriot? That would explain the difference in the totals.
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Not on the year though! It's 18,000 Compass versus 10,000 Patriot. That HAS to be wrong!

Compass and Patriot almost exactly offset falling Commander, Grand Cherokee, and Liberty sales. The Jeep increase is all Wrangler baby! Nice!

I didn't know Chrysler still made the Pacifica... and apparently neither did most of America. Nice to see the Aspen spinning its tires down at the less-then-25,000-a-year mark. Avenger and Sebring are doing better than I expected.
The Compass was launched well before the Patriot which explains the difference in year to date sales numbers.

They stopped building the Pacifica. It was built on the same line as the minivan in the Windsor assembly plant and the plant is down for conversion to the new minivan. The Pacifica will no longer be built when the plant resumes production for the 2008 model year.
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Suzuki Sets All-Time May Sales Record; 58% increase in XL-7 Sales

American Suzuki just keeps setting records. The XL7 is a huge hit. The previous engine behind Suzuki's growth in the USA, the Forenza, is getting a bit long in the tooth, however, and sales were actually down. Suzuki has also listed the Aerio and SX4 sales as combined, which is a bit unusual but certainly makes the sales increase look good. I have to wonder what the sales would look like broken out.

The question I have is, will American Suzuki follow up to its 2004 model debut of the Forenza, Reno and Forenza Wagon with a new 2009 model from GM Daewoo, or will they try to rely on sales of the SX4 and SX4 sedan to carry them with cars? Will the Verona make a comeback as a rebadged GM Daewoo Tosca? Will Nissan provide more than a pickup for Suzuki to sell here?

Or will Suzuki try to "go it alone" with its cars as the Forenza reaches the end of its life cycle, and can Suzuki keep the sales records coming without a value-packed, roomy sedan?

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BREA, Calif.--American Suzuki Motor Corporation (ASMC) today announced sales of 10,190 automobiles in May, an increase of 1 percent over May 2006 and the best May sales in company history. Year-to-date sales for 2007 now stand at 47,163 units; for all of 2006, Suzuki sold 100,990 vehicles – the first time in its 22-year history the automaker enjoyed automobile sales of more than 100,000.

ASMC’s impressive month was led by the sales growth of its midsize crossover SUV, the XL7, which sold 2,161 units, an impressive 58 percent increase over last year. Sales of the media-acclaimed Grand Vitara also helped propel the company’s strong May results, which are anticipated to continue well into the summer driving season and beyond due to a string of new product introductions on the horizon. Last month, Suzuki unveiled the next addition to its expanding product line, the all-new 2008 SX4 sedan – introduced during the New York International Auto Show. The SX4 sedan goes on sale in Suzuki dealerships nationwide this fall.

“American Suzuki’s record-setting May, which follows our company’s best first quarter ever, demonstrates Suzuki’s continued sales momentum in a highly competitive automotive market,” said Mark Harano, president of American Suzuki Automotive Operations. “With our current line of spirited Suzuki vehicles and the excitement surrounding the arrival of the Suzuki SX4 sedan in dealerships this fall, we believe we are laying the foundation for even more growth in the future.”

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The Compass was launched well before the Patriot which explains the difference in year to date sales numbers.

They stopped building the Pacifica. It was built on the same line as the minivan in the Windsor assembly plant and the plant is down for conversion to the new minivan. The Pacifica will no longer be built when the plant resumes production for the 2008 model year.
Really, from what I understand the Pacifica is continuing production. Since in 2007 it did get a redesign.

Production may not be in Windsor though, it might move to St Louis.
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Thanks for organizing this, guitarlix.

Buick61, how about those Charger sales in May?
I know. Up over 20% to 13,463.
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Adding (missing) info to the thread. I'm just copying and pasting the article without taking the time to format the sales data -- just click on the link if you want to see clear, nicely organised columns.

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Honda Sales Speed Up in May 2007 to New Record; Civic Sets All-Time Record


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CR-V and Fit set records

TORRANCE, Calif., June 1 -- Record May sales for American Honda Motor Co., Inc., increased to 145,367, up from 141,810 in 2006, breaking the previous May record set in 2004, the company announced today. The Honda Division posted record May sales of 129,447, up from May 2006 results of 125,639.

With one additional selling day in May 2007, the daily selling rate* (DSR) percentage change represents a 1.4 percent decline for American Honda and a 0.9 percent decline for Honda Division. Year-to-date American Honda sales increased to 625,994, up 1.0 percent.

Honda Division's new May record was bolstered by all-time record sales of the compact Civic and subcompact Fit and a new May record for the CR-V crossover SUV -- the best-selling SUV in the U.S. Civic sales of 39,993, up 32.6 percent for the month, shattered an all-time record of 36,533 set in August 2001. Civic Hybrid sales of 4,520, up 50.4 percent, also broke the all- time record of 4,146 set in August 2005. Record May CR-V sales increased by 35.9 percent to 19,513. Fit results of 5,361 achieved a new all-time record.

"Small is big right now," said **** Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda. "Smaller vehicles have become more attractive for multiple reasons and we expect this trend to continue for the time being."

Additional large volume Honda Division products for May include the Accord, 31,915; Odyssey, 15,235; and Pilot, 10,133. Ridgeline and Element volume respectively totaled 3,600 and 3,187. Year-to-date, Honda Division sales of 551,220 are up 2.5 percent with total car sales increasing by 3.9 percent and light truck sales increasing by 0.7 percent on a DSR basis.

Acura Division sales totaled 15,920. The recent introductions of the completely redesigned MDX luxury SUV and all-new RDX crossover SUV pushed Acura light truck sales up 82.6 percent to 6,635. The MDX posted strong May sales of 4,623, up 27.2 percent versus last year and up 7.1 percent for the year on a DSR basis.

*The daily selling rate is calculated with 26 days for May 2007, versus 25 for 2006.

For more information about Honda vehicles, please visit http://www.honda.com/. For more information about Acura vehicles, please visit http://www.acura.com/.

American Honda Vehicle Sales For May 2007
Month-to-Date Year-to-Date
May May DSR** May May DSR**
2007 2006 % Chg. 2007 2006 %Chg.
American Honda Total 145,367 141,810 -1.4% 625,994 614,778 1.0%
Total Car Sales 87,064 84,898 -1.4% 352,733 357,073 -2.0%
Total Truck Sales 58,303 56,912 -1.5% 273,261 257,705 5.2%
Honda Total Car
Sales 77,779 72,221 3.6% 310,766 296,620 3.9%
Honda Total Truck
Sales 51,668 53,418 -7.0% 240,454 236,964 0.7%
Acura Total Car
Sales 9,285 12,677 -29.6% 41,967 60,453 -31.1%
Acura Total Truck
Sales 6,635 3,494 82.6% 32,807 20,741 56.9%
Domestic Car Sales* 71,463 65,971 4.2% 283,116 287,234 -2.2%
Honda Division 65,703 59,994 5.3% 258,302 256,478 -0.1%
Acura Division 5,760 5,977 -7.3% 24,814 30,756 -20.0%
Domestic Truck Sales* 40,872 43,108 -8.8% 192,492 198,045 -3.6%
Honda Division 34,237 39,614 -16.9% 159,685 177,304 -10.6%
Acura Division 6,635 3,494 82.6% 32,807 20,741 56.9%
Import Car Sales 15,601 18,927 -20.7% 69,617 69,839 -1.1%
Honda Division 12,076 12,227 -5.0% 52,464 40,142 29.7%
Acura Division 3,525 6,700 -49.4% 17,153 29,697 -42.7%
Import Truck Sales 17,431 13,804 21.4% 80,769 59,660 34.3%
Honda Division 17,431 13,804 21.4% 80,769 59,660 34.3%
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Honda Division Total 129,447 125,639 -0.9% 551,220 533,584 2.5%
Fit 5,361 5,248 -1.8% 18,156 9,040 99.3%
Accord* 31,915 36,967 -17.0% 153,431 145,529 4.6%
Memo: Accord Hybrid 439 520 -18.8% 1,702 2,849 -40.7%
Civic* 39,993 29,006 32.6% 137,288 138,744 -1.8%
Memo: Civic Hybrid 4,520 2,890 50.4% 13,895 13,154 4.8%
S2000 510 908 -46.0% 1,888 2,895 -35.3%
Insight 0 92 3 412 -99.3%
FCX 0 0 0 0
Odyssey* 15,235 16,887 -13.3% 64,822 72,941 -11.8%
Pilot* 10,133 12,856 -24.2% 56,261 59,288 -5.9%
CR-V* 19,513 13,804 35.9% 84,464 59,660 40.5%
Element* 3,187 5,216 -41.2% 16,728 22,125 -25.0%
Ridgeline 3,600 4,655 -25.6% 18,179 22,950 -21.4%
Acura Division Total 15,920 16,171 -5.3% 74,774 81,194 -8.6%
RSX 12 2,125 -99.5% 287 8,311 -96.6%
TL* 5,760 5,977 -7.3% 24,814 30,756 -20.0%
TSX 2,859 3,520 -21.9% 14,007 16,664 -16.6%
RL 653 1,047 -40.0% 2,858 4,680 -39.4%
NSX 1 8 -88.0% 1 42 -97.6%
MDX* 4,623 3,494 27.2% 22,388 20,741 7.1%
RDX* 2,012 0 10,419 0
Selling Days 26 25 127 126
*Honda and Acura vehicles are made of domestic and global sourced
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The question I have is, will American Suzuki follow up to its 2004 model debut of the Forenza, Reno and Forenza Wagon with a new 2009 model from GM Daewoo, or will they try to rely on sales of the SX4 and SX4 sedan to carry them with cars? Will the Verona make a comeback as a rebadged GM Daewoo Tosca? Will Nissan provide more than a pickup for Suzuki to sell here?

Very good questions I have been pondering for a VERY long time....I guess it all depends if GMDATS compact becomes the truly global compact even replacing the cobalt here or if they decide yet again Amercians need something a little different.

Once the Forenza is gone, that leaves Suzuki with no GMDATS in their lineup, and yet Suzuki still has intrest and part ownership in them so I figure somthing has to be in the works, whether it be a Tosca with a shoehorned 3.2 or 3.6 or the next gen Forenza on the new delta II with the other GMDAT offerings.

Here's hoping the Suzuki version of the Frontier isn't an identical rebadge but differ a little like the XL7 to the Nox/Torrent

Seemse like since the XL7 has been itroduced its canabalized a little of the Grand Vitaras sales

And even before the SX4 joined the lineup, Aerio sales were in a increase(possibly due to the last gas price increase last year), of course after adding the SX4 they increased far more

The swift will also be introduced in 2009/10 so maybe the SX4 sedan replaces the Forenza and the Swift slots under.....making the SX4 sedan the Forenza replacement. But that still leaves the fact that Suzuki confirmed their next all japanese compact would keep the Forenza name due to image and sales boost it had and the SX4 sedan has already been confirmed as the Aerio sedan replacement and is a little smaller then most compacts on the market.....so maybe a larger compact such as the next GMDAT or a new inhouse project is in the works...IDK
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American Honda Vehicle Sales For May 2007
Month-to-Date Year-to-Date
May May DSR** May May DSR**
2007 2006 % Chg. 2007 2006 %Chg.
American Honda Total 145,367 141,810 -1.4% 625,994 614,778 1.0%
Total Car Sales 87,064 84,898 -1.4% 352,733 357,073 -2.0%
Total Truck Sales 58,303 56,912 -1.5% 273,261 257,705 5.2%
Honda Total Car
Sales 77,779 72,221 3.6% 310,766 296,620 3.9%
Honda Total Truck
Sales 51,668 53,418 -7.0% 240,454 236,964 0.7%
Acura Total Car
Sales 9,285 12,677 -29.6% 41,967 60,453 -31.1%
Acura Total Truck
Sales 6,635 3,494 82.6% 32,807 20,741 56.9%
Domestic Car Sales* 71,463 65,971 4.2% 283,116 287,234 -2.2%
Honda Division 65,703 59,994 5.3% 258,302 256,478 -0.1%
Acura Division 5,760 5,977 -7.3% 24,814 30,756 -20.0%
Domestic Truck Sales* 40,872 43,108 -8.8% 192,492 198,045 -3.6%
Honda Division 34,237 39,614 -16.9% 159,685 177,304 -10.6%
Acura Division 6,635 3,494 82.6% 32,807 20,741 56.9%
Import Car Sales 15,601 18,927 -20.7% 69,617 69,839 -1.1%
Honda Division 12,076 12,227 -5.0% 52,464 40,142 29.7%
Acura Division 3,525 6,700 -49.4% 17,153 29,697 -42.7%
Import Truck Sales 17,431 13,804 21.4% 80,769 59,660 34.3%
Honda Division 17,431 13,804 21.4% 80,769 59,660 34.3%
MODEL BREAKOUTS BY
DIVISION
Honda Division Total 129,447 125,639 -0.9% 551,220 533,584 2.5%
Fit 5,361 5,248 -1.8% 18,156 9,040 99.3%
Accord* 31,915 36,967 -17.0% 153,431 145,529 4.6%
Memo: Accord Hybrid 439 520 -18.8% 1,702 2,849 -40.7%
Civic* 39,993 29,006 32.6% 137,288 138,744 -1.8%
Memo: Civic Hybrid 4,520 2,890 50.4% 13,895 13,154 4.8%
S2000 510 908 -46.0% 1,888 2,895 -35.3%
Insight 0 92 3 412 -99.3%
FCX 0 0 0 0
Odyssey* 15,235 16,887 -13.3% 64,822 72,941 -11.8%
Pilot* 10,133 12,856 -24.2% 56,261 59,288 -5.9%
CR-V* 19,513 13,804 35.9% 84,464 59,660 40.5%
Element* 3,187 5,216 -41.2% 16,728 22,125 -25.0%
Ridgeline 3,600 4,655 -25.6% 18,179 22,950 -21.4%
Acura Division Total 15,920 16,171 -5.3% 74,774 81,194 -8.6%
RSX 12 2,125 -99.5% 287 8,311 -96.6%
TL* 5,760 5,977 -7.3% 24,814 30,756 -20.0%
TSX 2,859 3,520 -21.9% 14,007 16,664 -16.6%
RL 653 1,047 -40.0% 2,858 4,680 -39.4%
NSX 1 8 -88.0% 1 42 -97.6%
MDX* 4,623 3,494 27.2% 22,388 20,741 7.1%
RDX* 2,012 0 10,419 0
Selling Days 26 25 127 126
*Honda and Acura vehicles are made of domestic and global sourced
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I don't think that suzuki, now that they have been liberated from GM will ever go back to flogging Korean cars. They will either develop the car in house or turn to nissan for larger cars.

Further down the line they are getting ready to take Mazda off Ford when Ford is forced to raise some morre cash.
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I don't think that suzuki, now that they have been liberated from GM will ever go back to flogging Korean cars. They will either develop the car in house or turn to nissan for larger cars.

Further down the line they are getting ready to take Mazda off Ford when Ford is forced to raise some morre cash.
Last I checked, GM still owned part of Suzuki (albeit a smaller part), and Suzuki still owned some of GM Daewoo.

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Here's hoping the Suzuki version of the Frontier isn't an identical rebadge but differ a little like the XL7 to the Nox/Torrent

And even before the SX4 joined the lineup, Aerio sales were in a increase(possibly due to the last gas price increase last year), of course after adding the SX4 they increased far more

The swift will also be introduced in 2009/10 t.....so maybe a larger compact such as the next GMDAT or a new inhouse project is in the works...IDK
After sitting in an SX4 (hatch), I hope they have something larger lined up. Swift, SX4 Sedan and SX4 sounds like a lot of cars, but all are rather small vehicles.

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After sitting in an SX4 (hatch), I hope they have something larger lined up. Swift, SX4 Sedan and SX4 sounds like a lot of cars, but all are rather small vehicles.
Exactly, The SX4 and SX4 sedan a basically a lengthend subcompact(based on swift platform) so they really do need somthing a little larger to compete with most compacts offered in the US market. Not to mention although you could consider either the SX4 or SX4 sedan subcompacts they don't compete with the Swift. The Swift is a street hatch, SX4 is more of an offroad crossover with ground clearance, and the SX4 sedan being just that, a sedan.

Even if Suzuki sold the next gen Lacetti as a Forenza I don't see the SX4 sedan competing against it, as the SX4 sedan would more so compete against the Yaris sedan or Versa while the next gen Forenza could be dubed the larger more powerful offering with the 2.2-2.4 Ecotecs...another reason Suzuki might of decided to revert back to the 2.0 even though the last couple gens of Aerios had the 2.3. Yet, Suzuki I have also read is in the process of creating true inhouse performance parts to offer through SWT, so i really don't know what Suzuki is doing. They tend to be more secret in their plans then most companies, and show things at last moment...guess its good to keep the consumer guessing...
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