March 2008 Sales - Everyone else

[minnfang]

Originally Posted by tgagneguam

Indeed, and as you may be pointing out facetiously, minnfang, I don't think GM fans can find cause to celebrate. March industry sales were off by 6.8% (again, adjusted for number of selling days), whereas Accord grew sales by 6.8%; the car picked up share in March. I'm unable to locate YTD sales for the industry, though the Accord is off by just 3.9%; it's a reasonable bet to assume the industry as a whole is off by more, and the Accord again picked up share. Not surprising. It's a nice car, though, of course, you won't see me in one.

GM's results have nothing to do with my point. The Accord is an all new car that has had time to ramp. If it were well accepted, Honda would be enjoying significant sales increases. Especially considering the bajillion Accord TV commercials that I've seen.

[carscomblogger]

Originally Posted by jbartley

when does the new Pilot go on sale?

Soon...very soon. I doubt current models are still being shipped to dealers. Although there seems to be a ton of 2008s in our new car inventory.

[K-1]

Originally Posted by silvergoat2k6

36K+ Accords on top of almost 41K Camrys sold in March '08...any word on Altima sales for March '08?

EDIT: found it...Nissan sold over 31K Altimas for March.

So, let's see....Accord/Camry/Altima sales: almost 108K. Malibu/G6/Aura sales: a little over 36K.

Epic fail.

Wow, that's a totally valid comparison.

Accord 36k
Camry 41k
Altima 31k
Fusion/Milan/MKZ 23k
Taurus/Sable 9k
Impala/LaCrosse/Grand Prix 33k
Malibu/G6/AURA/9-3 38.5k

[skylark68]

Originally Posted by PhishPhood

Fewer selling days 26 vs 28

Thanks Phish Phood.

[silvergoat2k6]

Originally Posted by K-1

Wow, that's a totally valid comparison.

Accord 36k
Camry 41k
Altima 31k
Fusion/Milan/MKZ 23k
Taurus/Sable 9k
Impala/LaCrosse/Grand Prix 33k
Malibu/G6/AURA/9-3 38.5k

Is it a valid comparison...as you can see, the domestics are fighting for sales among themselves...they aren't stealing any of Honda's/Nissan's/Toyota's sales.

Instead of 3 different Ford midsize cars, just build one great one.

Instead of 4 different GM midsize cars, just build one or two great ones.

[K-1]

Originally Posted by silvergoat2k6

Is it a valid comparison...as you can see, the domestics are fighting for sales among themselves...they aren't stealing any of Honda's/Nissan's/Toyota's sales.

Instead of 3 different Ford midsize cars, just build one great one.

Instead of 4 different GM midsize cars, just build one or two great ones.

No, I don't see that. I see everyone fighting for everyone else's sales (such is business) and I see GM's midsize offerings in total outselling everyone else.

[markusername]

Originally Posted by K-1

No, I don't see that. I see everyone fighting for everyone else's sales (such is business) and I see GM's midsize offerings in total outselling everyone else.

Even more importantly what you fail to see is the following:

Camry/Accord/Altima = Billions in profits.
Domestics 12 midsize put together = losing money.

Amazing how few people on GMI realize that the only goal here it to make a PROFIT. Even if the domestic 12 outsell the import 3 by a 10000 to 1 ratio, if they lose money in the process - it doesn't matter!

[K-1]

Originally Posted by markusername

Even more importantly what you fail to see is the following:

Camry/Accord/Altima = Billions in profits.
Domestics 12 midsize put together = losing money.

Amazing how few people on GMI realize that the only goal here it to make a PROFIT. Even if the domestic 12 outsell the import 3 by a 10000 to 1 ratio, if they lose money in the process - it doesn't matter!

Oh, I realize that, but we're talking sales numbers here. Cut out the remaining ~78,000 welfare cases and, boom, GM makes a profit. Unfortunately, upon muttering the word "profit", 78,000 hands open up, waiting for a payout.

[88Fiero]

Originally Posted by kain01

Profit of the sale still goes to Japan though :p

A lot of intellagent people dont realize this! Then they wonder why Michigan is sinking.

[Bravada]

Profit on compact cars makes up a relatively small portion of the price paid by the customer. What is really being paid for (and what goes to prop the GDP of this or that country) are components, raw materials, assembly/processing (of the raw materials, components and final car), other fixed costs (real estate etc.), logistics, marketing (big bucks, and American marketing money is bound to be spent in America) and finally the dealer's compensation in this form or another.

Why Michigan is sinking though? Well, the post said Ohio for Honda....

[BrickTamland]

Originally Posted by K-1

Wow, that's a totally valid comparison.

Accord 36k
Camry 41k
Altima 31k
Fusion/Milan/MKZ 23k
Taurus/Sable 9k
Impala/LaCrosse/Grand Prix 33k
Malibu/G6/AURA/9-3 38.5k

If you're including the MKZ and 9-3, why not include the ES, IS, TSX, TL, and G35?

If you're including the Taurus, Sable, Impala, LaCrosse, and Grand Prix, why not include the Avalon, Maxima, Lucerne, and G8?

[lio45]

Originally Posted by CADZILLA_53

Honda sells 4658 less vehicles in march of this year compared to last year, and they have a 4% increase????? think again

No need to think again... it's a 4.2 % increase when adjusted for the number of selling days. (I believe everyone reports sales this way... I know Ford and GM both do).

As a matter of fact, this March 2008 has been the best March ever for Hondas sold per selling day.

Not bad for a "difficult year"... beating your all-time sales record!

Anyone needs further proof that a lineup of fuel-efficient, well-designed, appealing small cars is a winning bet nowadays?

[bone]

[quote=lio45;1362357]No need to think again... it's a 4.2 % increase when adjusted for the number of selling days. (I believe everyone reports sales this way... I know Ford and GM both do).

As a matter of fact, this March 2008 has been the best March ever for Hondas sold per selling day.

Not bad for a "difficult year"... beating your all-time sales record!

Anyone needs further proof that a lineup of fuel-efficient, well-designed, appealing small cars is a winning bet nowadays?[/QUOT


No further proof required.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by K-1

Wow, that's a totally valid comparison.

Accord 36k
Camry 41k
Altima 31k
Fusion/Milan/MKZ 23k
Taurus/Sable 9k
Impala/LaCrosse/Grand Prix 33k
Malibu/G6/AURA/9-3 38.5k

Right... your comparison, which includes Lincoln's Fusion (MKZ) but excludes Acura's Accord (TSX) or Lexus's Camry (ES350), is much more fair.

Considering both Malibu + Impala, and both Fusion + Taurus, then comparing them to the Camry alone (ignoring the Avalon) is also the most valid way to look at things... no doubt.

[footney]

Is this the year that a foriegn carmaker win the overall sales title?