July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

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    July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    BY JOHN VOELCKER
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    Aug 1, 2012


    In July, Chevrolet sold 1,849 Volts, bringing its total for the first seven months of the year to 10,666--and its total U.S. sales since launch to 18,663 (including 7,671 in 2011 and 326 in December 2010).

    By contrast, Nissan sold 395 Leaf battery-electric vehicles, giving it a 2012 total thus far of 3,543 (down 26 percent on last year's 4,806 as of July 2011), and overall U.S. sales since launch of 13,236 (9,674 in 2011 and 18 in December 2010).

    Nissan has lately resorted to lower-cost lease offers to boost sales of the lagging Leaf. Its vice-president of sales, Al Castignetti, attributes the battery-electric car's low sales this year to a variety of causes, including a change to dealer distribution and increased competition from other plug-in offerings.

    In July, Toyota delivered 688 units of the third high-volume plug-in car on the U.S. market, the 2012 Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid.

    That's just barely fewer than last month's 695, and it brings the number of plug-in Prius hybrids delivered since February to 5,021.

    More at link.
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    There's some odd spin with the Leaf here:

    The problem (as we have said before) is that Nissan is having a hard time meeting the demand for their Leaf electric vehicle. At this point, the company is accepting new orders for the Leaf but they still have not worked their way through the initial 20,000 pre-orders taken in 2010. Because of that, prospective electric vehicle buyers can walk into a Chevrolet dealership and drive out with a new Volt but a trip to a Nissan dealership could mean a lengthy wait before you ever see your new Leaf. Nissan expects that the Leaf will be available in far stronger supply once the company begins American production later this year but that influx of new units will almost certainly come too late to help the Leaf lead the electric vehicle segment in the US for the second straight year.
    How can they claim they're having trouble meeting demand when sales are dropping and there are nearly 2500 Leafs sitting around the USA. That makes no sense. It's more likely no one is buying them because the few who want an electric only got theirs. The folks that want an EREV, which is always useful, have looked elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if range anxiety has kicked into force.

    Anyway, that quote is a true thing of beauty. I just can't believe the line: "... having a hard time meeting the demand for their Leaf electric vehicle."

    Additional sales numbers can be seen here. With this quote also therein:

    Nissan continues to insists allocation to the US had been constrained by worldwide demand, and they are just now attempting to fill dealer inventory lots in hopes to see the start of a sales turn around come this September. There is now only a scant 30 odd days left to see if CEO Carlos Ghosn’s prediction of “…you can expect to see the sales move up dramatically starting in September” will come true.
    At least we have a date: September. Let's see if things turn around. I don't think they will.
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Quote Originally Posted by zete View Post
    There's some odd spin with the Leaf here:



    How can they claim they're having trouble meeting demand when sales are dropping and there are nearly 2500 Leafs sitting around the USA. That makes no sense. It's more likely no one is buying them because the few who want an electric only got theirs. The folks that want an EREV, which is always useful, have looked elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if range anxiety has kicked into force.

    Anyway, that quote is a true thing of beauty. I just can't believe the line: "... having a hard time meeting the demand for their Leaf electric vehicle."

    Additional sales numbers can be seen here. With this quote also therein:



    At least we have a date: September. Let's see if things turn around. I don't think they will.
    I agree! This almost sounds like the BS story we heard last year .............


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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Good for the volt, they are steadly increasing their sales 1700+ sales in june 1800+ in july. At this rate 2000k per month by oct. They could hit 20k for the yr. leaf just keeps droping, PIP is also droping, abet slowly.
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Quote Originally Posted by TORRED1 View Post
    Good for the volt, they are steadly increasing their sales 1700+ sales in june 1800+ in july. At this rate 2000k per month by oct. They could hit 20k for the yr. leaf just keeps droping, PIP is also droping, abet slowly.
    A couple of the articles point out that at the current rate they'll hit 20-21k. That'd work out to 30+k worldwide. Considering the hassle GM went through with the world of fools looks like the car is selling itself -- and I'm sure owners are singing the Volt's praises, I know I am.

    I notice with the 2013 the rear seats get a nice arm rest in the middle position. Nice addition. That and the added range won't hurt sales.
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    What did Nissan have for a goal for this year?

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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    What did Nissan have for a goal for this year?
    For every person in Henderson to buy one.
    Yeah, it was a a one-shot, one-city target and we can all see the results now.
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Lately, it seems that i am seeing Volts everywhere (maybe I am just noticing every one). I even saw one in a driveway being charged yesterday. Cool.
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Quote Originally Posted by plane View Post
    For every person in Henderson to buy one.
    Yeah, it was a a one-shot, one-city target and we can all see the results now.
    At least electricity is cheap there!

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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    What did Nissan have for a goal for this year?
    Its no where near it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    What did Nissan have for a goal for this year?
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Obviously Volt sales to the government fleet are brisk! (sarcasm alert) Don't worry about Nissan, I am sure Mayor Bloomberg will soon require these to be the only authorized vehicles in New York City; to go with the ugly Nissan minivan taxis.
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    I say come early January after the car sales info comes in, if the Leaf doesn't show significant sales improvement, that Ghosn is kicked out the door at least as head of Nissan. As he, from what I know of, was "all in" on the Leaf project.

    I do not think I have seen any Leaf's on the road at all.
    Only one or 2 at the dealership.
    I have seen some Volts on the road or in parking lots as well as at the dealership.

    For those that want a "green"/electric car(for the most part), the Volt is the way to go, though hybrids aren't a bad way to go either. Though I wish people would stay away from Toyota/Lexus's hybrids. I suggest going w/Ford/GM(though don't bother w/the e-assisted models. Much smarter to go w/a full hybrid(if available).


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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    I agree! This almost sounds like the BS story we heard last year .............
    You mean the one that said Leaf was going to kick Volt butt all over the country?

    Yeah i remember that BS
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    Re: July Plug-In Electric Car Sales: Volt Steady, Leaf Lethargic (Again)

    Quote Originally Posted by smithrobs View Post
    Obviously Volt sales to the government fleet are brisk! (sarcasm alert) Don't worry about Nissan, I am sure Mayor Bloomberg will soon require these to be the only authorized vehicles in New York City; to go with the ugly Nissan minivan taxis.
    Don't remind me those ugly minivan taxis

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