GM's June Sales Will Prove Costly: "The bill will have to be paid"

[likearock00]

Don't let the stock market fool you. The June sales reports by automakers showed what damage high gasoline prices are doing to the auto business.

Only one of six big automakers -- Honda Motor (HMC, news, msgs) -- could say it sold more vehicles than a year ago. The situation is so dire that investors rejoiced when General Motors (GM, news, msgs) said it sold 8% fewer cars than a year ago -- better than the 15.9% decline analysts had expected.

GM's sales of 265,937 vehicles ensured that it will remain the top automaker in the United States at least for another month. Toyota's (TM, news, msgs) sales fell 11.5% to 193,234 units.

But, as investors dug into the numbers, the stark reality was this: GM's big incentive promotion of a week ago helped enormously but the bill will have to be paid. That's why GM shares, which had been up as much as 15%, ended the day up 2.2% to $11.75.

GM's was the third-best performance among the 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which closed up 32 points to 11,382 -- after falling as many as 166 points earlier in the session. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index was up 5 points to 1,285, and the Nasdaq Composite Index was up 12 points to 2,305.

It wasn't clear if the rebound can be sustained. For one thing, crude oil moved higher, closing at $140.97 a barrel, up 97 cents from Monday.

The whole auto industry is now reeling. Autodata, which tracks motor vehicle sales, says June sales ran at annualized rate of 13.6 million units, down 13.4% from a year ago. Ford (F, news, msgs) and Chrysler Group weren't so lucky. Ford sales fell 19%. Sales of its F- series pickups -- the company's biggest money maker for years -- fell 40%.

Chrysler's sales fell 28%, a day after the company said it was mothballing a minivan assembly plant in St. Louis trimming pickup production at another plant. Chrysler is now the fifth-largest automaker, based on sales, behind GM, Toyota, Ford and Honda.

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[JackDye]

It continues to amaze me the that analyst talk about the US car market as the proxy for the entire market. Even in 2007, the US market only made up 16M units of the total 70M worldwide market. Is it the biggest and most dollars? Absolutely. Is it an indication of negative growth in the overall industry? Not even close.

[PMC the 1st]

Re-read your analyses. The 72-Hour sale was not tabulated in June's sales results. Although the sale will, in effect, turn GM into a non-profit for a little while...

[PMC the 1st]

Even the America haters have to admit: Toyota bombed!!!
Big time.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by PMC the 1st

Although the sale will, in effect, turn GM into a non-profit for a little while...

"Turn" GM into a non-profit???? LOL!

You mean, drive the company even deeper than usual in non-profit.

[AMERICA 123]

GM's June Sales Will Prove Costly - well, now that we've had the required GM pity party - lets also note - it will also be costly probably more costly - to much of GM's competition.

IMO, Once again, given all the reality of the situation..... exactly what they should do.

[zete]

They have to move those trucks. Usually they have HUGE profits on them. I think they're still making money on them even at the discount, just not as much. Better to move some inventory -- and shut some plants -- to deal with what will be a long, slow summer of truck and SUV sales. Otherwise, they'll have to fire sale them come September.

[AMERICA 123]

Yep.

And on top of that ......things could get worse before they get better.

[plane]

Is this really bad news?
127,000 fewer vehicles in stock compared to this time last year.
That's in a market that holds 2 million fewer sales than last year.
There were no overall hard numbers mentioned.
The fact that Toyota did much worse than GM was glossed over.

The one hard finance number was ~$3400 in Siliverado incentives, up 19%.
Which is not squat considering $4/gallon gasoline.

If GM moved 2007 inventory and broke even for the month that's great.
Anything more is just icing on the cake.

Ever wondered how selling something at even "half-price" can bring in lucrative profits?

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[AMERICA 123]

You're right plane, and there is a twinge of this and a twinge of that in it - it's definitely shrill.

Sometimes it just p***** you off.

But, thru superior editing maybe we can make something out of it.

Adds in bold.

Originally Posted by likearock00

Don't let the stock market fool you.< Chose us instead, for all fool work needed > The June sales reports by automakers showed what damage high gasoline prices are doing to the auto business.< Please ignore all other relevant factors>

Only one of six big automakers -- Honda Motor (HMC, news, msgs) -- could say it sold more vehicles than a year ago.

The situation is so dire that investors rejoiced when General Motors (GM, news, msgs) said it sold 8% fewer cars than a year ago -- better than the 15.9% < 19 -33%> decline < most all> analysts had expected.

GM's sales of 265,937 vehicles ensured that it will remain the top automaker in the United States at least for another month.< Actually 'most probably' for the year, but I'm too stupid to realize that, and, well, Toyota would be really PO if I did.>

Toyota's (TM, news, msgs) sales fell 11.5% to 193,234 units.

But, as investors dug into the numbers, the stark reality was this: GM's big incentive promotion of a week ago helped enormously but the bill will have to be paid. That's why GM shares, which had been up as much as 15%, ended the day up 2.2% to $11.75.< Please, Please, Please, do not ask about Lexus and do not notice the 12 and counting signs of surprising weakness at Toyota, now that we have 6 months for the YTD.>

GM's was the third-best performance among the 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which closed up 32 points to 11,382 -- after falling as many as 166 points earlier in the session. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index was up 5 points to 1,285, and the Nasdaq Composite Index was up 12 points to 2,305.

It wasn't clear if the rebound can be sustained. For one thing, crude oil moved higher, closing at $140.97 a barrel, up 97 cents from Monday.

The whole auto industry is now reeling. Autodata, which tracks motor vehicle sales, says June sales ran at annualized rate of 13.6 million units, down 13.4% from a year ago. Ford (F, news, msgs) and Chrysler Group weren't so lucky. Ford sales fell 19%. Sales of its F- series pickups -- the company's biggest money maker for years -- fell 40%.

Chrysler's sales fell 28%, a day after the company said it was mothballing a minivan assembly plant in St. Louis trimming pickup production at another plant. Chrysler is now the fifth-largest automaker, based on sales, behind GM, Toyota, Ford and Honda.< Toyota surprised all analysts and turned in the third worst performance not only of the big 6 but of the rest of the industry as well ?. Lexus numbers were so bad compared to BMW and MB that I quit there - just in case they are the worst performing Luxury Brand in the Luxury Brand grouping.>

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