GM, Ford US sales seen down in May; Toyota, Honda up

[cadillacpimpin]

i dont like these really broad articles. they are somewhat misleading. it is like one person writes a news article about a topic and then everyone just copies his article but every time it is copied its get less and less specific. not really saying much about this specific article, but down the line in like two weeks we are gonna read the same article 7 different times, by different people, and each time its just gonna be the same thing, but each time less and less informative.

[johnny smallblock]

This is the crappiest article I've read in a while. They cite slowing production of the 800s as a sign of trouble but totally ignore the 68% of the market the 900s have captured. 800s are either fleet or firesale. Cutting their production is a very good thing.

Why was this article even posted?!?

[SobeSVT]

Originally Posted by johnny smallblock

This is the crappiest article I've read in a while. They cite slowing production of the 800s as a sign of trouble but totally ignore the 68% of the market the 900s have captured. 800s are either fleet or firesale. Cutting their production is a very good thing.

Why was this article even posted?!?

Are they still producing 800s SUV?????? I think the article is talking about Pick-ups

JP Morgan analyst Himanshu Patel, who expected GM's production to be down 6 percent, said the automaker was likely to temporarily idle production lines for its outgoing GMT 800 line of pickup trucks from time to time during third quarter.

Don't know why, but I think he is means pick up trucks.

[ponchoman49]

If I needed a small fuel efficient car the last place I would go would be Toyota or Honda. It would take years of gas savings to recoupe all the extra money they charge for cars like the Prius or Civic. Wouldn't a lightly optioned Jetta diesel make a lot more sense provided the reliability was there of course. Even a small Kia or Hyundai seems a lot more appealing to me with it's lower prices and better warrentys.

[toronado10]

Uh-oh... I can't stand these falling sales. GM and Ford need to hustle up and catch up with the Japanese quality if they want to gain back a decent reputation. Right now, despite their new products, everything except Cadillacs are considered absolute crap.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by nsap

Is it really necessary to have articles like this EVERY month? Yeah, we know, GM and Ford will be down, DCX will be slightly up or down, Toyota and Honda will be WAY up, and Nissan will be crappy.

Jeez.

So... your point is that you don't like sales data? Because they are indeed published every month, whether GM is up or down.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by citric acid

Ford looks pretty dead in the water though, and given my experience with DCX's new compact so are they.

FYI : Caliber: Small car, big sales

[citric acid]

Originally Posted by lio45

FYI : Caliber: Small car, big sales

So a sucker IS born every minute. And they go to Dodge dealerships.

[SobeSVT]

Originally Posted by citric acid

So a sucker IS born every minute. And they go to Dodge dealerships.

SO much for your experience with compacts.

[nsap]

Originally Posted by lio45

So... your point is that you don't like sales data? Because they are indeed published every month, whether GM is up or down.

No. I like seeing the sales data, good or bad. It's always interesting. What I don't like is every media outlet thinkable writing a stupid article about sales before they are even anounced.

[New_Mexico_Sunset_on_Rt66]

So are these numbers are based on year ago comparisons? Since fleet sales are down, compared to last year, then Yes, year ago sales will be down.

But isn't the new Tahoe selling real well, and the new Escalade?

[Hotspur]

Sales is a significant indicator of corporate health. GM and Ford's new products are not (i) increasing market share, or (ii) stemming the market losses of older models. This is very bad news no matter how you look at it.

[citric acid]

Originally Posted by SobeSVT

SO much for your experience with compacts.

Well, it's nice to know that if I poo on a stick and make it look pretty it'll sell.

[kenman923]

Now why doesn't an article like that surprise me?

[shelby]

Originally Posted by New_Mexico_Sunset_on_Rt66

So are these numbers are based on year ago comparisons? Since fleet sales are down, compared to last year, then Yes, year ago sales will be down.

But isn't the new Tahoe selling real well, and the new Escalade?

These "numbers" aren't actually sales numbers. They are projections by industry analysts, who's reputation for getting things right is about as good as the weatherman's.