Ford down 6% in September vs a year ago

[FanOfDurant]

Holy shizzle, the F-Series is up! Not too often we see increases in truck sales these days.

Doesn't surprise me one bit. You'd think by now GM would see the profit potential in building the best truck money can buy. I keep thinking of what 'Could' have been if GM used the Tahoe front end and sheet metal design/fenders on the Silverados... What a world class truck that could have been. Very sophisticated!! Ford Owns the road in the midwest as far as trucks go. GM trucks are viewed as a lightweight joke in commercial and construction circles. And this is exactly why I bring it up all the time. I'm rooting for GM but man, they gotta step up to the plate or just step off it.

[ford&holden]

Originally Posted by K-1

What about 114,655 vs. 156,673? But, again, no where did I mention GM in that post.

The Ford-GM gap is closing....Ouch.

[ford&holden]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

Here are a few that catch my eye:

Fusion 10,834
Malibu 10,479

Mustang 4,917
Camaro 7,961

Flex 2,033
Traverse 6,863

Edge 4,477
Equinox 6,840

Expedition 2,370
Tahoe 7,304

Ranger 2,052
Colorado 2,094

Navigator 690
Escalade 1,343

MKS/MKZ/Town Car 3,321
CTS 3,485


The area where Ford killed GM was in full size pickup trucks.

F-series 33,877
Silverado/Sierra 26,645

Nice try...

For even more impact why don't you post the year to date figures also.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by ford&holden

Nice try...

???

One thing I forgot to mention is that the Malibu really has no hybird version to speak of. Take away Fusion hybrid sales (~1000-1500?) and the Malibu actually outsold the new Fusion.

[Simon says]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

???

One thing I forgot to mention is that the Malibu really has no hybird version to speak of. Take away Fusion hybrid sales (~1000-1500?) and the Malibu actually outsold the new Fusion.

Maybe (actually for SURE) in the Enterprise/Avis/National fleet . . . and the Malibu doesn't have a hybrid for 2010, this year it did have one and it was a FLOP!

[ford&holden]

Originally Posted by Simon says

Maybe (actually for SURE) in the Enterprise/Avis/National fleet . . . and the Malibu doesn't have a hybrid for 2010, this year it did have one and it was a FLOP!

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by ford&holden

You know what i'm talking about...

You love to make one off comparisions don't you?

I'm going to stop you right here because you are starting to ramble. What I did was look at the sales figures and I compared GM and Ford vehicles. If you want to go into more detail, it is up to YOU to provide additional details as to why these figures should be overlooked. So don't sing it, bring it.

[ford&holden]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

???

One thing I forgot to mention is that the Malibu really has no hybird version to speak of. Take away Fusion hybrid sales (~1000-1500?) and the Malibu actually outsold the new Fusion.

You know what i'm talking about.

Unless you can show fleet vers retail and profit per unit sold, your point is rather weak...


What will you enlighten us with next?

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by Simon says

Maybe (actually for SURE) in the Enterprise/Avis/National fleet . . . and the Malibu doesn't have a hybrid for 2010, this year it did have one and it was a FLOP!

'Tis is the point my dear friend. The Malibu essentially has no hybrid version to speak of which could help draw in customers. The Fusion does have one and if I'm not mistaken around 1500 customers buy it each month. Therefore, if one overlooks hybrid models, the Malibu outsold the Fusion.

I haven't seen a break down of fleet vs retail for these vehicles. If you have such information, feel free to share.

[ford&holden]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

I'm going to stop you right here because you are starting to ramble. What I did was look at the sales figures and I compared GM and Ford vehicles. If you want to go into more detail, it is up to YOU to provide additional details as to why these figures should be overlooked. So don't sing it, bring it.

This is what you do...bate and then twist it around.


We all know who is doing better, some, like you have to pick apart the irrelevant points to hold onto something comforting.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by ford&holden

You know what i'm talking about.

Unless you can show fleet vers retail and profit per unit sold, your point is rather weak...


What will you enlighten us with next?

I haven't the slightest clue as to why you made what is essentially a double post.

[ford&holden]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

'Tis is the point my dear friend. The Malibu essentially has no hybrid version to speak of which could help draw in customers. The Fusion does have one and if I'm not mistaken around 1500 customers buy it each month. Therefore, if one overlooks hybrid models, the Malibu outsold the Fusion.

I haven't seen a break down of fleet vs retail for these vehicles. If you have such information, feel free to share.

So why mention anything if YOU can't prove which vehicle is doing better in REALITY??

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by ford&holden

This is what you do...bate and then twist it around.

I fail to see how posting sales figures of comparable vehicles is bating and twisting. You'll have to make your case on that one.

We all know who is doing better, some, like you have to pick apart the irrelevant points to hold onto something comforting.

Don't sing it, bring it. If you have data that refutes that sales figures I posted, share it with the class. So far we've seen about 5 post from you and all of them are attacking me instead of providing data.

[ford&holden]

Originally Posted by E. Haskell

I haven't the slightest clue as to why you made what is essentially a double post.

I haven't the slightest clue as to why you post what you post 50% of the time.

[E. Haskell]

Originally Posted by ford&holden

So why mention anything if YOU can't prove which vehicle is doing better in REALITY??

Where did I make the claim that I was trying to prove ANYTHING? I simply posted sales figures from September of the year 2009. I'm sorry if this has gotten your pantylooms in a twist.