February 2008 Sales: Ford Motor Company (down 6.9%)

[igor]

http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=27753

Igor

[OrlandoGuy80]

Interesting how Ford is no longer breaking out the mid-size car nameplates; now it's simply "Taurus." No "Taurus - old," Five-Hundred, etc.

How the hell was the Mountaineer up over last year? Incentives?

Finally, pretty scary that Volvo is considering dropping the S60 from its lineup. That was its best selling nameplate last month.

[BrickTamland]

At least the Fusion is holding strong.

[Gm786]

Originally Posted by BrickTamland

At least the Fusion is holding strong.

On the contrary, Toyota wasn't that far behind from Ford for last month's sales.

Ford sales Total for last month= 196,681

Toyota's sales for last month= 182,169

Very close numbers indeed. Ford needs to keep an eye on Toyota's monthly sales.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Gm786

Ford needs to keep an eye on Toyota's monthly sales.

Basically EVERYONE needs to keep an eye on Toyota's monthly sales. Yes, that includes Nissan, Honda, et al.

GM of course should also do it, although even if they DO keep an eye on Toyota it probably won't be enough to prevent it from taking GM's #1 spot worldwide...

[gardnet1]

At least they beat the analysts and taking away the fleet sales reductions, they probably would have had a small increase in sales. Flex, new F150, new again Taurus and Fiesta can't come soon enough. I want a Ka and Mondeo too! Maybe that was what Mullaly was hinting at with the radical Taurus redesign...a Mondeo inspired Taurus.

Next year the hard comparison will be the elimination or massive reduction in Panther cars (Crown Vic, Gran Marquis & Town Car); maybe even the Mountaineer.

Did you see Chrysler trying to move in on the Crown Vic at the Las Vegas race by hawking that Charger Police Pace Car?

I think Ford should mock them and have a bright yellow Crown Vic Taxi Cab be the Pace car at Bristol. Either that or a stretch Town Car Limo.

[Gm786]

Originally Posted by lio45

Basically EVERYONE needs to keep an eye on Toyota's monthly sales. Yes, that includes Nissan, Honda, et al.

GM of course should also do it, although even if they DO keep an eye on Toyota it probably won't be enough to prevent it from taking GM's #1 spot worldwide...

Ford should do so, not GM. GM has a lot of momentum going an it's definitely not going to end anytime soon..... Ford on the other hand is suffering from lackluster sales and you can't deny that. Just look at the numbers. Toyota's sales for February are almost right inline with Ford's sales. Ford is clearly the automaker that should be keeping an eye on Toyota's monthly sales, not GM. Don't try and argue with facts buddy.

[TiburonJT]

Originally Posted by Gm786

Ford should do so, not GM. GM has a lot of momentum going an it's definitely not going to end anytime soon..... Ford on the other hand is suffering from lackluster sales and you can't deny that. Just look at the numbers. Toyota's sales for February are almost right inline with Ford's sales. Ford is clearly the automaker that should be keeping an eye on Toyota's monthly sales, not GM. Don't try and argue with facts buddy.

Wake up. Toyota is kicking GM's ass. GM has some great new products, and the focus shouldn't necessarily be on sales, but GM and Ford have a lot to worry about after decades of mismanagement.

[blank disk]

Originally Posted by Gm786

Ford should do so, not GM. GM has a lot of momentum going an it's definitely not going to end anytime soon..... Ford on the other hand is suffering from lackluster sales and you can't deny that. Just look at the numbers. Toyota's sales for February are almost right inline with Ford's sales. Ford is clearly the automaker that should be keeping an eye on Toyota's monthly sales, not GM. Don't try and argue with facts buddy.

Facts?

What do you know about facts...LOL

[lio45]

Facts :

GM down 13% for February
Ford down 6.9% for February
Toyota down 3% for February
etc.
(look these FACTS up, the sources are all readily available)

In other words, Ford has gained ground on GM in US sales last month.

GM has a lot of momentum going an it's definitely not going to end anytime soon..... Ford on the other hand is suffering from lackluster sales and you can't deny that.

If Ford's sales are lackluster, then GM's sales are even more lackluster, as GM is bleeding marketshare even faster than Ford if we look at the latest data...

Ouch.

Please don't try to argue with facts again. (Friendly advice)

[gardnet1]

Originally Posted by Gm786

Ford should do so, not GM. GM has a lot of momentum going an it's definitely not going to end anytime soon..... Ford on the other hand is suffering from lackluster sales and you can't deny that. Just look at the numbers. Toyota's sales for February are almost right inline with Ford's sales. Ford is clearly the automaker that should be keeping an eye on Toyota's monthly sales, not GM. Don't try and argue with facts buddy.

Yeah but several months last year toyotanic had better monthly sales than Ford, so this has to be a somewhat of an improvement. Plus Ford will lose a few more thousand units of comparison next month when Jag & L-R are stripped away from the sales numbers.

The way Ford has been improving quality lately, I wouldn't be surprised if they pass toyotanic in the next JDPower initial quality index. Last time only two Ford models weren't at least average or better in quality. The only two major issues to hold Ford back were the old 6.0 powerstroke and a problem with the F-150 4WD versions. The new 6.4 powerstroke is purring along quite well and I'm assuming there has been some progress on the 4wd issues. Things are going well for Ford's Mazda subsidiary.

Meanwhile, toyotanic has a nightmare on its hands with the turdra, lexus models and camry falling apart within hours after leaving the assembly line. Not to mention the sienna door self-destruction problems and perhaps tacoma I've heard.

[Gm786]

Originally Posted by lio45

Facts :

GM down 13% for February
Ford down 6.9% for February
Toyota down 3% for February
etc.
(look these FACTS up, the sources are all readily available)

In other words, Ford has gained ground on GM in US sales last month.



If Ford's sales are lackluster, then GM's sales are even more lackluster, as GM is bleeding marketshare even faster than Ford if we look at the latest data...

Ouch.

Please don't try to argue with facts again. (Friendly advice)

Give me a break alright. I'm talking strictly about monthly units.

Let's see......

Toyota sales for February = 182,169 units

Ford's sales for February = 196,681 units

GM sales for February = 270,423

Those are facts! Regardless if GM posted a decline for the month, GM was still way on top for the month of February. Now although Ford sold more cars and trucks in February than Toyota, they weren't that far ahead of Toyota. Toyota is the one who is catching up to Ford and I honestly don't think GM has anything to worry about over the long run due to the fact that GM is constantly pumping out new cars that are attracting a lot of media buzz, interest, and sales. And there is a lot more coming in the near future. As for Ford, they haven't done almost anything when compared to GM.

By the way, I'm not talking about global sales so don't even go there. We are talking about sales for the month of February.

[Gm786]

Originally Posted by gardnet1

Yeah but several months last year toyotanic had better monthly sales than Ford, so this has to be a somewhat of an improvement. Plus Ford will lose a few more thousand units of comparison next month when Jag & L-R are stripped away from the sales numbers.

The way Ford has been improving quality lately, I wouldn't be surprised if they pass toyotanic in the next JDPower initial quality index. Last time only two Ford models weren't at least average or better in quality. The only two major issues to hold Ford back were the old 6.0 powerstroke and a problem with the F-150 4WD versions. The new 6.4 powerstroke is purring along quite well and I'm assuming there has been some progress on the 4wd issues. Things are going well for Ford's Mazda subsidiary.

Meanwhile, toyotanic has a nightmare on its hands with the turdra, lexus models and camry falling apart within hours after leaving the assembly line. Not to mention the sienna door self-destruction problems and perhaps tacoma I've heard.

Even if what you saying is true, I'm not talking about those things you pointed out. I'm talking about Toyota, Ford's, and GM's sale figures for the month of February and when you compare all of those, GM is the automaker that had the highest sales for the month although they as well as the other automakers that I'm comparing posted declines for the month.

[Klay]

Originally Posted by Gm786

Give me a break alright. I'm talking strictly about monthly units.

Let's see......

Toyota sales for February = 182,169 units

Ford's sales for February = 196,681 units

GM sales for February = 270,423

Those are facts! Regardless if GM posted a decline for the month, GM was still way on top for the month of February. Now although Ford sold more cars and trucks in February than Toyota, they weren't that far ahead of Toyota. Toyota is the one who is catching up to Ford and I honestly don't think GM has anything to worry about over the long run due to the fact that GM is constantly pumping out new cars that are attracting a lot of media buzz, interest, and sales. And there is a lot more coming in the near future. As for Ford, they haven't done almost anything when compared to GM.

By the way, I'm not talking about global sales so don't even go there. We are talking about sales for the month of February.

I understand what you are saying but your data only proves one point, that GM sales more vehicles than Ford. It has been that way for a loonnnggg time. However, the way you are coming acrossed is that GM is gaining sales while Ford is losing which simply isn't true. The trend is Ford is catching up to GM as well as Toyota is catching up to Ford, at least for February.

So basically, while in your opinion GM may have better vehicles than Ford, the trend is GM is losing buyers at a faster rate than Ford. Of course, this is all based on February so that may or may not be the overall trend.

[silvergoat2k6]

Anyone else notice how much Mustang sales have fallen off?

Taurus sales are still pathetic I see...and Sable sales are pretty much non-existant. I'm sure the recent announcement of a all-new Taurus coming soon isn't helping sales either.