Chinese May Car Sales Results

[samkung]

Well this data is according to the chinese passenger car sales union (direct translation, dunno what is the exact english name)


1 ：　　一汽大众 (First auto-VW) 　　 39859

2 ：　　奇瑞汽车 (Chery)　　 33805

3 ：　　上海大众 (Shanghai-VW)　　 32877

4 ：　　上海通用 (Shanghai-GM)　　 30103

5 ：　　东风日产 (XX- Nissan)　　 20394

6 ：　　吉利汽车 (Geely)　　 17723

7 ：　　广州本田 (Guangzhou-Honda) 17389

8 ：　　长安福特 (Chang'an-Ford)　　 17178

9 ：　　神龙汽车 (dunno this one)　　 16251

10：　　一汽丰田 (First auto-toyota)　 15240


Top 10 selling cars:


1：捷达 (VW Jetta) 19710

2：凯越 (GM Excelle) 13252

3： QQ From Chery) 12639

4：凯美瑞 (Camry) 12186

5：旗云 (from Chery) 10917

6：桑塔纳3000 (VW) 10841

7： F3 10554 Shanghai: Combine a Torrent with an RX350 and you get... have a look i got some F3 pictures there

8：福克斯 (Focus) 10541

9：雅阁 (Accord) 10510

10：夏利 (old Car) 　 10422

[Butz]

GM in 4th place? I thought GM was #1 in China

[samkung]

Nah others are catching up, so they said GM is not gonna be #1 this year, and beside the news with Total GM sales are misleading sometimes, there are 3 companies which is related to GM in China, there is the GM China, which is in charge of selling Opel and collaborate with ShanghaiGM ( which is the 2nd compnay that GM joint with SAIC in a 50:50 way) Shanghai GM is in charge of the sales n manufacture of Buick, Chevy and Cadillac in China.

The third one is SAIC-GM-Wuling Automobile Co, which is that little company who make those Vans which account for nearly half (guessing) of the total GM vehicle sales, but seriously GM has only 25% in that company, so media in china dont usually count the cars it sold into the total GM number, while figures u guys get from american media always put cars sold by SGMW under the big GM umbrella, thats why GM is selling so many cars in China, then again GM is the #1 in China last year even without SGMW;p

(thats my understanding of how GM work in China, correct me if i m wrong, becoz i m 100% sure;o )

[Bravada]

9 ：　　神龙汽车 (dunno this one)　　 16251

Dongfeng Peugeot Citroen Automobile Company, the Chinese JV of PSA.

五：旗云 (from Chery) 10917

Refreshed 1st-gen Seat Toledo, A15 Flagcloud (sold as Amulet in Russia):

六：桑塔纳3000 (VW) 10841

Shanghai-VW Santana 3000

十：夏利 (old Car) 　 10422

Old Daihatsu-Charade-based FAW Tianjin Xiali (the legal version, Geely also makes illegal knockoffs).

[Butz]

Originally Posted by samkung

Nah others are catching up, so they said GM is not gonna be #1 this year, and beside the news with Total GM sales are misleading sometimes, there are 3 companies which is related to GM in China, there is the GM China, which is in charge of selling Opel and collaborate with ShanghaiGM ( which is the 2nd compnay that GM joint with SAIC in a 50:50 way) Shanghai GM is in charge of the sales n manufacture of Buick, Chevy and Cadillac in China.

The third one is SAIC-GM-Wuling Automobile Co, which is that little company who make those Vans which account for nearly half (guessing) of the total GM vehicle sales, but seriously GM has only 25% in that company, so media in china dont usually count the cars it sold into the total GM number, while figures u guys get from american media always put cars sold by SGMW under the big GM umbrella, thats why GM is selling so many cars in China, then again GM is the #1 in China last year even without SGMW;p

(thats my understanding of how GM work in China, correct me if i m wrong, becoz i m 100% sure;o )

This makes sense

[samkung]

Originally Posted by Butz

This makes sense

haha good good good, hope GM can do better in china, with its new park ave, and the new epica, #1 or not, the most important thing is to make more $$ and help the NA to turn around, btw i heard that GM's profit is going down while sales went up becoz of the competition

[Bravada]

What GM might need is a solid contender for all those Cherys and Xialis - how is the Sail doing?

[samkung]

New Figures: i guess its more accurate (since there arent any centralised survey, these figures vary + information arent free flow in china)



1. FAW-VW
2. Chery
3. Shanghai VW
4. Shanghai GM
5. Dongfeng Nissan
6. Guangzhou-Honda
7. Geely
8. Chang'an-Ford
9. Beijing Hyundia
10 FAW-Toyota

[Bravada]

Given that Chery and its models are highlited in those oh-so-refined Excel charts, I bet 5 RMB those are Chery's data - which explains why they are so high (I really don't think Chang'an-Ford is bigger than Chang'an Suzuki, or that Geely is larger than DPCA).

[samkung]

Originally Posted by Bravada

Given that Chery and its models are highlited in those oh-so-refined Excel charts, I bet 5 RMB those are Chery's data - which explains why they are so high (I really don't think Chang'an-Ford is bigger than Chang'an Suzuki, or that Geely is larger than DPCA).

Nah its not made by chery, its just a news show that chery is getting to 2nd place, ford is doing better than suzuki for sure they sell loads of Focus
BTW Bravada, can u read chinese?

[HEVguy]

Originally Posted by samkung

Nah others are catching up, so they said GM is not gonna be #1 this year, and beside the news with Total GM sales are misleading sometimes, there are 3 companies which is related to GM in China, there is the GM China, which is in charge of selling Opel and collaborate with ShanghaiGM ( which is the 2nd compnay that GM joint with SAIC in a 50:50 way) Shanghai GM is in charge of the sales n manufacture of Buick, Chevy and Cadillac in China.

The third one is SAIC-GM-Wuling Automobile Co, which is that little company who make those Vans which account for nearly half (guessing) of the total GM vehicle sales, but seriously GM has only 25% in that company, so media in china dont usually count the cars it sold into the total GM number, while figures u guys get from american media always put cars sold by SGMW under the big GM umbrella, thats why GM is selling so many cars in China, then again GM is the #1 in China last year even without SGMW;p

(thats my understanding of how GM work in China, correct me if i m wrong, becoz i m 100% sure;o )

Ughhhh, I still don't get it!?

[Bravada]

BTW Bravada, can u read chinese?

Not quite, but I have my ways Goes better with Japanese...

BTW, I thought that the Chang'an Suzukis were extremely popular, and also much cheaper than the Focus. Ford used to be a non-contender in the PRC not that long ago, so I guess THIS is news, rather than Chery.

Oh, perhaps this is based on some weird calculations, e.g. taking into account only some models based on the two first digits of their official numbers - I never figured that out other than I think 7 is for bus, as the Monstro was registered as a "7" to circumvent the regulations....

[samkung]

Originally Posted by Bravada

Not quite, but I have my ways Goes better with Japanese...

BTW, I thought that the Chang'an Suzukis were extremely popular, and also much cheaper than the Focus. Ford used to be a non-contender in the PRC not that long ago, so I guess THIS is news, rather than Chery.

Oh, perhaps this is based on some weird calculations, e.g. taking into account only some models based on the two first digits of their official numbers - I never figured that out other than I think 7 is for bus, as the Monstro was registered as a "7" to circumvent the regulations....

Icic, well nowadays ford is doing pretty good in China, everyone seems love the Focus, and they start selling the S-MAX too, plus the new Mondeo is coming soon, i bet Ford might be even better this year

[asim]

Why is Volkswagen beating GM in China? What is so appealing to the Chinese of the Volkswagens compared to a good solid GM? =]

[samkung]

Well, they got those new cars, like the "new jetta" not the one shown above, Passat......and also there are loads of fleet cars, like the jetta shown above and the Santana 3000, for taxi and other stuff, n beside they got 2 separate VW in china, 2 separate network... same as toyota, so GM be careful......toyota is coming :S