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    Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    Car sales October 2012: winners and losers
    Tim Beissmann | November 05th, 2012
    www.caradvice.com.au

    Toyota has dominated Australia’s new vehicle sales charts in October, with the Toyota HiLux, Toyota Camry and Toyota Corolla filling three of the top four places in the national monthly rankings.

    The HiLux ute (3403 sales) reclaimed top spot in October from the Mazda3 small car (3342), which slipped to third in what was a stellar month for the locally built mid-sized Camry sedan (3379).

    October saw the Camry claim the title of the top-selling Australian-made car for just the second time in its history – the first coming in January 1995 – easily accounting for traditional sales leaders the Holden Commodore (2449) and the Ford Falcon (1391).

    The Corolla achieved 2977 sales and fourth place in a month of transition between the run-out model and the all-new ninth-generation hatch, while its South Korean competitor, the Hyundai i30, rounded out the top five with 2898 sales.

    Holden’s two Australian-made models ranked sixth (Commodore – 2449) and eighth (Cruze – 2551), split by the Volkswagen Golf (2436), which enjoyed one of its strongest months on record.

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    Top 10 Best-selling Vehicles – October 2012

    Toyota HiLux – 3403
    Toyota Camry – 3379
    Mazda3 – 3342
    Toyota Corolla – 2977
    Hyundai i30 – 2898
    Holden Commodore – 2449
    Volkswagen Golf – 2436
    Holden Cruze – 2251
    Ford Ranger – 2126
    Nissan Navara – 2124


    Top 10 Best-selling Vehicles – 2012 to date

    Mazda3 – 35,776
    Toyota HiLux – 34,467
    Toyota Corolla – 31,066
    Holden Commodore – 25,675
    Holden Cruze – 25,142
    Hyundai i30 – 24,212
    Nissan Navara – 21,297
    Toyota Camry – 20,499
    Toyota Yaris – 15,465
    Volkswagen Golf – 15,127

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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    The Ranger has cracked the top 10! Good work Ford.

    Cruze now 5th in class for sales (though as stated Golf and Corolla are in run out).

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    Holden’s two Australian-made models ranked sixth (Commodore – 2449) and eighth (Cruze – 2551)
    Me thinks someone forgot to proof the article before pressing enter as the list has Cruze at 2251??
    Either way this prolonged death of VEII may hurt VF on release. That being said people especially private buyers would be holding off replacing a perfectly good 4,5 or 6 year old VE if there is no percieved benefit in replacing it with a car that essentially looks the same bar slightly reshaped headlights and more efficient engines when the outside world sees VE and noting more. Once VF comes into play they need to do more to refresh the appearance. I think 4 years would be as far as I would IMO stretch a model.
    We will never see changes every couple of years like we did with VT,X,Y nd Z heck we probably wont see a model past VF, If it is the last of it's type at least let it go out with a BANG not a Whimper.
    Then in 10 to 15 years people will be clamering for a large car that simply will be resigned to the history books as a small 3 or 5 door hatch will not be sufficient and the novelty of SUV's and CUV's will wain.

    PS. I know content of Commodore has changed quite a lot from when it was first introduced, however there are a large number of people out there who don't look past the facade. Or judge the book by its cover in simple terms
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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    VE is copping it from all sides. It's 2 years beyond the standard major facelift of Commodores past and the market has so many other options. I also don't think that the market for large cars has shrunk at all, it just the "medium" sized class has grown to within millimetres of the Commodore and their class definition hasn't reflected the change.

    The drop of the Cruze is more worrying. I think Holden need to reassess the model structure and carry down some of the features of the SRi-V into the CDX and SRi. On a value basis the upper model Cruzes are left behind by the competition.

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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    Wow...Mazda?

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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    The Commadore is a great car but it needs new styling that is more modern up front and in the rear.
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    Are the Mazda3 or i30 sales predominately diesel or petrol?
    It is important what WE use as our "moral compass" and ...
    the "measuring stick" chosen for judging progress/success as well.


    44 mpg by 2010 ... 2013?

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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    I would agree on the notion that the mid sized cars have grown in size to the point where they are essentially the same size as the Commodore (interior room wise). Combine that with probably better fuel economy and its hard not to switch to the other cars. Also they may cost less then the Commodore as well, though I am not so sure on the cost side of things down under.

    IMHO the Commodore needs to come off as being more premium, I think that this is the way forward for that model.

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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    Camry is still not as big as Commodore inside but it's not small

    The big reason is 28 grand vs 35 grand drive away

    Both are either zero % finance or .5 % finance
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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by VS Ute 5Litre View Post
    Camry is still not as big as Commodore inside but it's not small

    The big reason is 28 grand vs 35 grand drive away

    Both are either zero % finance or .5 % finance
    + what is the insurance / road tax like going from a 3.6L to a 2.5L 4 pot as I assume there is a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by richmond2000 View Post
    + what is the insurance / road tax like going from a 3.6L to a 2.5L 4 pot as I assume there is a difference


    not sure if there is much difference insurance wise but perhaps a small difference rego wise , i know every state is different
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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    The insurance between the Commodore and Camry is not as big as some would think. if you shop around it would vary by maybe 100 bucks or so per year. plus also your age and so on. I just insured my SV6 VZ model 05 manual for about 650 plus GST from memory( A VE SV6 manual was not much different in price quoted me, I just didn't want to spend a lot on a car when VF is around the corner), I priced up with Shannons and they quoted me 1200 bucks which is ludicrous my CV8Z was cheaper go figure.
    I could have gotten it a bit cheaper but wasn't in to pay a massive excess in the event of an incident. I previously had a 2009 RAV 4 and that was a whisker under a grand a year being an SUV/CUV it has a higher centre of gravity thereby creating a higher roll over risk. so a comaparable Camry should be closer to 700 or less, again depends on age of driver etc. PS if anyone knows of cheaper prices I will gladly switch companies

    edit: More referring to the Baser models ie: Omega, Berliner SV6 when you move upto the Calais and so on I am not too sure differences I would assume the main factor would be more the V8 equipped models. than the trim itself.
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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    12 months registration on a 6 cylinder is $827 in South Australia. $224 is the actual rego plus 512 for CTP and the rest is made up of fees and taxes

    $100 dollars less for a 4 cylinder so a Camry to register here would be $727 for 12 months
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    Re: Australian Auto sales - Camry beats Commodore

    I just did a quote with AAMI for a 2012 Commodore Equipe and 2012 Toyota Altise and the Holden came out on top with $652 with a $600 excess (minimum allowable) agreed value $33,600 and the Camry was $683 with the same excess and agreed value $25,500.

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