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2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NW Montana
Drives: 2000 GMC Sierra 1500 Z71 5.3L
Posts: 152
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We want the General back!
After seeing and reading all of the material about selling this brand and keeping that brand, investing in this one and cutting production on that one it has left me with the same feeling it always has: GM needs to get back to it's traditional brand lineup.
Chevrolet/Pontiac/Buick/Cadillac/GMC/and maybe someday Oldsmobile Saab has got to go. They said the other day they weren't going to because it was profitable. All the more reason to sell it. People are more likely to want it if it's making money. It isn't a traditional GM brand, never has been and GM needs the cash. Goodbye Saab. Hummer has definitely got to go. I don't care where, but it wasn't ever a traditional brand so no one cares what happens to it. Goodbye Hummer. Saturn is pointless. If you want to import rebadged Opels, do it under the Buick name. Goodbye Saturn. Stop neglecting the traditional brands like Buick and Pontiac for the Johnny-Come-Lately brands and then turn around and wonder why Buick and Pontiac are so mediocre. It's no wonder they are performing like crap. You pumped money into Cadillac that gave it an identity and a direction for the brand, and look, it's giving BMW and Mercedes a run for their money. It really isn't my grandpa's Cadillac anymore. Ditch the new guys, support the traditional brands and take your place as the General once more.
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1.4 Liter Turbocharged ECOTEC
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 90
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Re: We want the General back!
holy crap!!!! someone actually making sense for once. i've been reading all of these 'Save GM' or 'How GM Should Be Restructured' posts, and I agree with some-but this sounds like it makes the most sense. it dies seem like GM has forgotten about the brands that were their bread and butter.
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6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lords Valley, PA
Drives: 2009 Ford Escape Limited Loaded
Posts: 5,172
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Re: We want the General back!
Thats even too many brands. I am no expert, but this is how I think it should be:
Chevy: Everyman Cars. Pontiac: Affordable Performance. Buick: Entry Luxury. Cadillac: Full out, top of the line luxury. Anything else isn't needed. |
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2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 281
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Re: We want the General back!
I agree to some extent. But Hummer was bought out to capitalize on the name and the Government contracts.
Hummer should not be discarded but rather brought back to it's core, developing military vehicles. As for saturn, I could go either way. Saab? I think GM has a lot to learn from Saab. |
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3.0 Liter SIDI V6
Join Date: Dec 2007
Drives: 2000 Chevrolet S-10 Xtreme, 1996 Chevrolet Lumina
Posts: 539
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Re: We want the General back!
You guys should be running GM with your brilliant ideas.
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7.0 Liter LS7 V8
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Drives: 2010 VW GTI
Posts: 4,850
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Re: We want the General back!
Well..they don't seem to be attending class with Professor Saab, or they are sleeping in the back row. I don't think GM is going to take advantage of Saab's potential, at least not any times soon. It would take time, attention, and money to get Saab to where it needs to be. Rather than think of what GM COULD do, people need to start thinking about what they actually WILL do and focus more on seeking to prevent the small mistakes within the actions of GM's predictable routes. I don't think we can expect any born-again, miracles from GM anytime soon...I would rather them make wise simple decisions than take risks that they have proven time and time again unable to follow through with from start to finish. I mean, this is the same company that took on Hummer, claiming to make it the ultimate off-road brand..rather than sticking to their word, they chopped off the only "truth" to that statement (the H1) and followed up with models that are more noted for their urban appeal than getting dirt on their tires. It's a joke.
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: VA
Drives: 2005 Silverado 2500HD 4x4, WT, 5 speed, 6.0l V-8
Posts: 7
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Re: We want the General back!
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3.6 Liter SIDI V6
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Syracuse-Alexandria Bay NY-Daytona
Drives: 07 DTS-07 CHEVY 2500
84 Z-28-72 GTO
Posts: 1,092
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Re: We want the General back!
GM learn from SAAB? They already know how to lose money!
They already know how to LOSE market share in their home market. Saab did learn to dump the crappy Triumph-Herald design engines and use QUALITY GM drivetrains ! Saab did learn to use GM-Delphi steering/electrical components instead of the other troublesome mutt pieces (Lucas?) they used before. GM bought a piginapoke with Saab and Daewoo as well !
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2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South of the Cities, Minnesota
Drives: In Sept. 2010, hopefully an Aveo or Vibe
Posts: 131
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Re: We want the General back!
Pontiac needed to be killed in my opinion. Chances are you arent going to like me for saying this but they were just rebadged cars. The only cars in Pontiacs lineup that GM didnt have something similar to in other divisions was the G8. Thats it. The G6 was Pontiacs version of the Impala, the Solstice was shared with Saturn as the Sky, the G5 & G3 were Chevys with Pontiac grills instead of Chevy grills. Pontiacs day was back in the day of the GTO muscle cars.
Once GM learns to make subcompacts in America they can throw Daewoo away.
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2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
Join Date: Jul 2009
Drives: 2008 Saturn Astra XR3 5-Speed
2005 Lotus Elise
Posts: 103
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Re: We want the General back!
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