Surprise me

member12 · 04-25-2007, 07:00 PM

When will GM understand that a small truck (or car) doesn't have to be a cheap truck (or car)?

It has been 3 model years (4 years) since the Colorado was introduced. While the truck may have been best in class for about 8 months, everyone has answered with a better, more attractive, NICER, and more expensive looking truck except for Ford. I realize that GM must protect the Silverado from sales cannabalization, but is this neglect really necessary? If GM is going to make it in the North American market, it has to move quicker to update it's products.

The Toyota Tacoma earns sales by offering:
more rugged styling
attractive and comfortable interiors with better materials
higher stance (or lower for street trucks)
more variations and cab/bed configurations
5 speed automatics/6 speed manuals across the board
real off road capability reputation
towing capacity that can actually be useful one day
decent pricing

Every single style or variation of the Colorado should be more powerful, better quality, better looking, and offer more options than the Tacoma and Frontier.

What gives? Get moving already....answer the competition.

likearock00 · 04-25-2007, 07:14 PM

It is clear that everybody here agrees with you, Member12. Unfortunately GM is not listening!! Sad, but I guess they feel like this is a segment that is not worth investing in.

LAMRONH · 04-26-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by likearock00

It is clear that everybody here agrees with you, Member12. Unfortunately GM is not listening!! Sad, but I guess they feel like this is a segment that is not worth investing in.

I understand. Neither were cars worth the investment.

PUTs and SUVs FOREVER!!

Old Dood · 04-26-2007, 06:30 AM

Its' too bad...The Colorado/Cayon have "style". I like the looks of these trucks.

01cavalier · 04-26-2007, 06:55 AM

I like the exterior of the Colorado/Canyon. They definitely need some updating though, but they will probably neglect them like they did with the S-10. Every product GM puts out needs to be top notch, not some of it, or even most of it. Until that happens, there will be plenty of people that will cut GM down. Sad thing is, I know GM can really do it.

TahoeMikeZ71 · 04-26-2007, 07:48 PM

I really want to see an updated Colorado/Canyon. I like the Canyon but I think it could be much better and class leading in both exterior and interior. I would also like to see a GMC or Chevy based SUV and the platform.

chakis24 · 04-26-2007, 07:57 PM

yeah, really. maybe theyre next? the quesiton is tho, should they keep them the same size or make them bigger? keep it a true compact or make it midsize? and if they bring the commodore ute over, would that replace the coloanyon or just be a niche vehicle?

either way, they def need an update

member12 · 04-26-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TAHOE LT

I really want to see an updated Colorado/Canyon. I like the Canyon but I think it could be much better and class leading in both exterior and interior. I would also like to see a GMC or Chevy based SUV and the platform.

Yes. I have been wanting that ever since I found out the Trailblazers were being canceled.

You'd think with the success of the Z71 vehicles, they'd offer a smaller SUV with some off road potential like the Xterra, 4runner, and FJ.

TahoeMikeZ71 · 04-27-2007, 07:33 PM

A smaller Z71 SUV model would be nice for people that can't afford the Tahoe Z71.

Greenday91490 · 04-28-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 01cavalier

I like the exterior of the Colorado/Canyon. They definitely need some updating though, but they will probably neglect them like they did with the S-10. Every product GM puts out needs to be top notch, not some of it, or even most of it. Until that happens, there will be plenty of people that will cut GM down. Sad thing is, I know GM can really do it.

Most of what GM puts out that is a really well rated car is usually something that will be very profitable like the new GMT-900 Sport uts and pickups.

greenhornet · 05-22-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 01cavalier

I like the exterior of the Colorado/Canyon. They definitely need some updating though, but they will probably neglect them like they did with the S-10. Every product GM puts out needs to be top notch, not some of it, or even most of it. Until that happens, there will be plenty of people that will cut GM down. Sad thing is, I know GM can really do it.

After owning a Caviler you actually bought a cobalt?

Wow, talk about blind loyalty

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327 · 05-23-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by greenhornet

After owning a Caviler you actually bought a cobalt?

Wow, talk about blind loyalty

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how is this blind loyalty? Its a totally different, much better car.

member12 · 05-24-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by greenhornet

After owning a Caviler you actually bought a cobalt?

Wow, talk about blind loyalty

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I know some happy cavalier owners. They sold very well and you could get a stripped down version for as low as 11K for a while.

t-rex · 05-24-2007, 04:42 PM

It's a bit odd that GM neglects its midsize truck duo so egrigiously. The S10/Sonoma were stylish, well built, and quite popular vehicles. Once the Colorado turned out to be such a sales dud, one would think GM would have taken steps to improve it.

GMCdriver · 05-24-2007, 07:50 PM

I drove an 03 Sonoma CrewCab 4x4 for 4 years and liked it a lot.
It was a reliable truck that performed every task I needed of it. It was good to me.
Good enough that I picked up an 07 Canyon CrewCab 4x4 to replace it.
So far I have been very happy with the Canyon. It has bettered my old Sonoma in every way I use it.

What am I missing here? What is wrong with my Canyon exactly?

04-25-2007, 07:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
member12 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta Drives: pickup truck Posts: 5,211	Surprise me When will GM understand that a small truck (or car) doesn't have to be a cheap truck (or car)? It has been 3 model years (4 years) since the Colorado was introduced. While the truck may have been best in class for about 8 months, everyone has answered with a better, more attractive, NICER, and more expensive looking truck except for Ford. I realize that GM must protect the Silverado from sales cannabalization, but is this neglect really necessary? If GM is going to make it in the North American market, it has to move quicker to update it's products. The Toyota Tacoma earns sales by offering: more rugged styling attractive and comfortable interiors with better materials higher stance (or lower for street trucks) more variations and cab/bed configurations 5 speed automatics/6 speed manuals across the board real off road capability reputation towing capacity that can actually be useful one day decent pricing Every single style or variation of the Colorado should be more powerful, better quality, better looking, and offer more options than the Tacoma and Frontier. What gives? Get moving already....answer the competition. Last edited by member12 : 04-25-2007 at 07:08 PM.

04-25-2007, 07:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
likearock00 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Drives: 2006 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab Z-71 Posts: 7,624	Re: Surprise me It is clear that everybody here agrees with you, Member12. Unfortunately GM is not listening!! Sad, but I guess they feel like this is a segment that is not worth investing in. __________________ "You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." -George W. Bush

04-26-2007, 06:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Old Dood 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lansing Drives: 2000 Park Avenue 2007 Camry XLE Posts: 7,463	Re: Surprise me Its' too bad...The Colorado/Cayon have "style". I like the looks of these trucks. __________________ 2000 Park Avenue 2007 Camry XLE "We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it." ~William Faulkner http://www.afterlife101.com/research2.html By the Way: There IS a Cabal

04-26-2007, 06:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
01cavalier 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, OR Drives: 2007 Cobalt Posts: 4,818	Re: Surprise me I like the exterior of the Colorado/Canyon. They definitely need some updating though, but they will probably neglect them like they did with the S-10. Every product GM puts out needs to be top notch, not some of it, or even most of it. Until that happens, there will be plenty of people that will cut GM down. Sad thing is, I know GM can really do it. __________________ No longer have the Cavalier, now it's a Cobalt!

04-26-2007, 07:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
TahoeMikeZ71 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,419	Re: Surprise me I really want to see an updated Colorado/Canyon. I like the Canyon but I think it could be much better and class leading in both exterior and interior. I would also like to see a GMC or Chevy based SUV and the platform. __________________

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04-26-2007, 07:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
chakis24 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: CT Drives: 2005 chevy silverado 1500 5.3 EC LB Z-71 Posts: 3,157	Re: Surprise me yeah, really. maybe theyre next? the quesiton is tho, should they keep them the same size or make them bigger? keep it a true compact or make it midsize? and if they bring the commodore ute over, would that replace the coloanyon or just be a niche vehicle? either way, they def need an update __________________ 2005 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 Z-71 EC LB 3" P.A. Body lift, 305/70/17 Nitto Terra Grapplers, 17x9 Pro Comp Extreme Alloy Wheels, Halo Projector headlights w/ HID conversion and LEDs, halo projector fog lights, Pace Edwards tonneau cover, Fire and Ice LED light bar, "Patriot" back window decal, JDM black chrome bumper lights w/ LED, Putco Crhome handle covers, Billet-grille emblem, iPOD jack...

04-27-2007, 07:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
TahoeMikeZ71 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,419	Re: Surprise me A smaller Z71 SUV model would be nice for people that can't afford the Tahoe Z71. __________________

05-24-2007, 04:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
t-rex 6.0 Liter LS2 V8 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Drives: 1997 BMW 328i S Posts: 4,896	Re: Surprise me It's a bit odd that GM neglects its midsize truck duo so egrigiously. The S10/Sonoma were stylish, well built, and quite popular vehicles. Once the Colorado turned out to be such a sales dud, one would think GM would have taken steps to improve it. __________________ t-rex's "Lit 101" short story of the week... Tim O'Brien — "Things They Carried" (a MUST read, if you ain't into lit; it's a good "Guy" kind of short story set in the Vietnam War)

05-24-2007, 07:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
GMCdriver 3.8 Liter Supercharged V6 Join Date: Oct 2006 Drives: 2007 GMC Canyon CrewCab 4x4 Z71 Posts: 558	Re: Surprise me I drove an 03 Sonoma CrewCab 4x4 for 4 years and liked it a lot. It was a reliable truck that performed every task I needed of it. It was good to me. Good enough that I picked up an 07 Canyon CrewCab 4x4 to replace it. So far I have been very happy with the Canyon. It has bettered my old Sonoma in every way I use it. What am I missing here? What is wrong with my Canyon exactly? __________________ The fastest way to kill a thread is a direct injection of verifiable facts.

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