Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it

silvergoat2k6 · 07-30-2007, 01:58 PM

This is the next car I want...a Saturn Aura Redline with the following:

DI, 3.6L DOHC, 280-hp V6 (leave the 300-hp version to Cadillac)
6-speed manual
AWD

There would be other minor things I'd want, but if the above 3 are standard the other stuff would not be a deal-breaker.

Oh, and have it sell for around $28K-$29K.

If you build it, I will buy it. I can't afford $40K-$50K for the new Cadillac CTS.

likearock00 · 07-30-2007, 02:25 PM

Wow, I'm sure GM will jump right on this. 1 sale!!

You know manual gearboxes are a dying breed!

HoosierRon · 07-30-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by likearock00

You know manual gearboxes are a dying breed!

Yes, I have noticed. Both my grandmother's minivan AND my octagenarian neighbor's Tauras wagon have automatics.

I'll be sure to let BMW, Nissan, Honda and VW know.

solman98 · 07-30-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by likearock00

You know manual gearboxes are a dying breed!

More want them, they are just harder to find in domestics.

likearock00 · 07-30-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierRon

Yes, I have noticed. Both my grandmother's minivan AND my octagenarian neighbor's Tauras wagon have automatics.

I'll be sure to let BMW, Nissan, Honda and VW know.

I meant in GM products.....

silvergoat2k6 · 07-30-2007, 02:49 PM

My '03 Mazda 6s came with a 5-speed tranny, as did the '03 Altima SE 3.5 I also considered back then. At the time, Honda did not offer the manual transmission with the V6 in the sedan (though it did appear the next year on the Coupe). It looks like GM is going to offer a manual transmission in the new '08 CTS...so I don't think it's too much to ask to offer it on a Saturn.

I'll say here what I said on another forum. If Saturn were to build this car, it might not sell in huge numbers...but it would generate interest in the car and get people into the showrooms and the salespeople can take it from there.

Saturn needs the Aura to be it's "halo" car, and as good as the XR is, it's not quite good enough. The Redline version I described above would be good enough.

If GM decides not to build it, I'm sure I could find an AWD, manual-transmission-equipped mid-sized sedan elsewhere.

likearock00 · 07-30-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by silvergoat2k6

I'm sure I could find an AWD, manual-transmission-equipped mid-sized sedan elsewhere.

Unfortunately, I think that is what it will come down to. Sucks!

zete · 07-30-2007, 04:22 PM

90+% of sales are automatic in North America. I hear >50% are automatic in Europe. And with the slate of hybrids coming out soon manuals will only become rarer and rarer. Plus, with fuel economy restrictions, a computer controlled multi-speed transmission can handle things more intelligently than any driver.

I can see a point in about 25 years when no cars are sold with manuals. Even sports cars will have semi-automatics.

Bravada · 07-30-2007, 04:44 PM

>50%? I surely doubt it, even with semis/autoclutch counted in. An automatic car is actually rare around here, save for perhaps large luxury cars.

F14CRAZY · 07-30-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by likearock00

Unfortunately, I think that is what it will come down to. Sucks!

Yup. Subaru Legacy

pontiacjs · 07-30-2007, 05:15 PM

I have only sold 3 Pontiac G6's with a manual trans. There is not a big demand for them. (the mp3 jack in the radio is 1,000 more important and a bigger selling feature than the 5spd).

rueben44 · 07-31-2007, 11:38 AM

Saturn should be the brand they offer it on though. Pontiac does not need it until they go RWD. Chevy mid-sizers do not need it but Opel produces it so if Saturn is really a link let them have it. It will fit right into the idea of the brand being American with Euro roots. To be honest I think a DI 4 should be standard with 200HP and a Turbo 4 should be the regular sedan motor then the 3.6 should be the redline with appearance package. The two fours can get the 5 speed auto and the V6 can get the 6 speed.

Also the fours will get better gas mileage and still have lots of power.

NationsKappatol · 08-01-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by F14CRAZY

Yup. Subaru Legacy

that's what I was thinking. If I had $28K for a midsizer, I would be in a Legacy GT Limited with a stick faster than you can blink. It is a little smaller than an Aura, but wow that engine is fun.

**ChevroletRevived** · 08-01-2007, 02:56 PM

This actually isn't too far off the mark...

Chaz_23 · 08-01-2007, 03:10 PM

But when it comes to Toyoduh people are happy to take whatever the salesguy put in front of them.

How about the G8 V6.

07-30-2007, 01:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
silvergoat2k6 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO Posts: 273	Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it This is the next car I want...a Saturn Aura Redline with the following: DI, 3.6L DOHC, 280-hp V6 (leave the 300-hp version to Cadillac) 6-speed manual AWD There would be other minor things I'd want, but if the above 3 are standard the other stuff would not be a deal-breaker. Oh, and have it sell for around $28K-$29K. If you build it, I will buy it. I can't afford $40K-$50K for the new Cadillac CTS.

07-30-2007, 02:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
likearock00 7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Drives: 2006 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab Z-71 Posts: 7,624	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it Wow, I'm sure GM will jump right on this. 1 sale!! You know manual gearboxes are a dying breed! __________________ "You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." -George W. Bush

07-30-2007, 02:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
silvergoat2k6 3.5 Liter V6 Join Date: Jul 2007 Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO Posts: 273	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it My '03 Mazda 6s came with a 5-speed tranny, as did the '03 Altima SE 3.5 I also considered back then. At the time, Honda did not offer the manual transmission with the V6 in the sedan (though it did appear the next year on the Coupe). It looks like GM is going to offer a manual transmission in the new '08 CTS...so I don't think it's too much to ask to offer it on a Saturn. I'll say here what I said on another forum. If Saturn were to build this car, it might not sell in huge numbers...but it would generate interest in the car and get people into the showrooms and the salespeople can take it from there. Saturn needs the Aura to be it's "halo" car, and as good as the XR is, it's not quite good enough. The Redline version I described above would be good enough. If GM decides not to build it, I'm sure I could find an AWD, manual-transmission-equipped mid-sized sedan elsewhere.

07-30-2007, 04:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
zete 5.3 Liter LS4 V8 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NCR, Great White North Posts: 3,134	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it 90+% of sales are automatic in North America. I hear >50% are automatic in Europe. And with the slate of hybrids coming out soon manuals will only become rarer and rarer. Plus, with fuel economy restrictions, a computer controlled multi-speed transmission can handle things more intelligently than any driver. I can see a point in about 25 years when no cars are sold with manuals. Even sports cars will have semi-automatics.

07-30-2007, 04:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bravada 70 MPG Two Mode Saturn Hybrid Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 10,478	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it >50%? I surely doubt it, even with semis/autoclutch counted in. An automatic car is actually rare around here, save for perhaps large luxury cars.

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pontiacjs 2.0 Liter Supercharged ECOTEC Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Madison Heights Drives: 05 GMC Sierra and gxp grand prix Posts: 177	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it I have only sold 3 Pontiac G6's with a manual trans. There is not a big demand for them. (the mp3 jack in the radio is 1,000 more important and a bigger selling feature than the 5spd).

07-31-2007, 11:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
rueben44 3.6 Liter V6 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houston, TX Drives: 2006 Mazda 3 2003 CTS - Sold Posts: 1,133	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it Saturn should be the brand they offer it on though. Pontiac does not need it until they go RWD. Chevy mid-sizers do not need it but Opel produces it so if Saturn is really a link let them have it. It will fit right into the idea of the brand being American with Euro roots. To be honest I think a DI 4 should be standard with 200HP and a Turbo 4 should be the regular sedan motor then the 3.6 should be the redline with appearance package. The two fours can get the 5 speed auto and the V6 can get the 6 speed. Also the fours will get better gas mileage and still have lots of power. __________________ 2006 Mazda 3 Car Domain Page

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ChevroletRevived GMI Staff Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Good Ol United States of America Posts: 8,833	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it This actually isn't too far off the mark... __________________ GMI's Revitalization in Action Director Check out our latest lineup by Clicking Here If you've got inside news and would like to be a GMInsider, send me a private message or email me HERE.

08-01-2007, 03:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chaz_23 6.0 Liter Vortec V8 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,683	Re: Attn GM: build THIS Saturn, and I'll buy it But when it comes to Toyoduh people are happy to take whatever the salesguy put in front of them. How about the G8 V6.

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